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Topic:  Which is more fun to play:  good characters or bad characters?

Stardate 10305.09
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Host Beth says:
Tpoic for tonight is which is more fun to play: Good characters or bad Characters....

Host Beth says:
And also how to get your moderator's fingers untangled.... <Tpoic = topic>

Kooky says:
hehe

Tarastinks says:
Hi

Hawkes says:
Beth: Define "Fun"

Tarastinks says:
How do I change it

Tarastinks says:
IT says it is already being used

Trish2 says:
hello twin

Hawkes says:
Hi Trish :)

Trish says:
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Friends}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Sy says:
Hey Trish

Trish says:
Hi Twin <G>

Kooky says:
(((((((((((((((((((((((( QM_Trish ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Host Beth says:
Which do you prefer playing, Joel :)

Trish says:
::giggles at Sandy:: what is the chat tonight?

Tarastinks says:
Hello

Tarastinks says:
anyone

Kooky says:
Tpoic for tonight is which is more fun to play: Good characters or bad Characters....

Trish says:
Hi Tara

Tarastinks says:
How do I change my name it is saying it is already being used and it us;t

Tarastinks says:
isn't

Trish says:
hit control and Q

Trish2 says:
and call yourself Tara2

Kooky says:
Eleah: type /nick Tara_

Tarastinks says:
I did

Host Beth says:
Tara...I'll take care of you in a whisper.....this isn't the place for it, dear....hold on.... :)

Trish2 says:
if Tara is being used

Trish says:
so, I like playing both, but being the bad guy is great to let out frustrations <EG>

Trish2 says:
is this as a player character or as an NPC?

Kooky says:
I haven't had much opportunity to play the bad guy ... but when I have it's been fun!

Hawkes says:
Beth: Well....I'd like to think that Hawkes is a good character, but I think it's somewhat relative. The only evil characters I've ever player were my nemesis npcs. They added a nice element to the game. An oposition. ::Shrugs:: And they were "fun" I suppose :)

Tara2 says:
There we go

Trish says:
for me it is as an npc... I wouldn't like it on a weekly basis

Tara2 says:
what is the topic today

Sy says:
I like playing bad guys... I am just not very convincing about it

Host Beth says:
Tara: which is more fun to play: Good characters or bad Characters.... :)

Kooky says:
Me either, Sy :)

Tara2 says:
I think a good character

Tara2 says:
why?

Tara2 says:
what does everyone else say?

Kooky says:
I had fun with Rob in that training mission last week :)

Trish says:
Sandy become an SM and you learn how to become a bad guy very quickly ::giggles::

Kooky says:
lol ... no thanks!

Tara2 says:
Okay

Host Beth says:
Tara: That's the topic for tonight, hon.....that's what we're all talking about :)

Tara2 says:
Cool

Tara2 says:
Okay

Tara2 says:
I can't stay much longer

Hawkes says:
I think that being an evil character might put a damper on promotions and comendations in a Fed based game?

Tara2 says:
Okay

Host Beth says:
I have fun playing bad guys for Trish's training when I can make it <eg>

Tara2 says:
Gotta

Tara2 says:
go

Tara2 says:
ttyl

Kooky says:
Probably would

Trish says:
yup, you could say that <G> Hawkes

Tara2 says:
ttyl all

Host Beth says:
Night tara :)

Tara2 says:
wish me luck on the rest of the 30 hour famine

Trish says:
famine?

Hawkes says:
Good luck Tara :)

Tara2 says:
Not eating for 30 hours

Tara2 says:
thanx

Tara2 says:
gotta go finish packing'

Tara2 says:
bye all

Host Beth says:
Back to the topic:  I think if you don't care about promotions a bad character would be fun...but hard to sistain.

Trish2 says:
ok so now back to the subject at hand... Beth: Did you mean NPC bad guy or player "bad" character

Host Beth says:
Either....or both :)

Trish says:
Beth may I make an observation about character bad guys?

Hawkes says:
yeah, I agree. I've know annoying characters (B'lee comes rapidly to mind...no offense to Jafo) but not too many evil ones. Course, that might just be the people I've served with.

Trish2 says:
A good example of a bad pc might be B'lee.... hehe GMTA Hawkes

Host Beth says:
Of course Trish

Sy says:
LOL

Sy says:
B'lee

Trish2 says:
I love B'lee :)

Host Beth says:
I had a blast playing with B'lee....

Hawkes says:
hi Rob :)

Rob says:
hi

Kooky says:
::bites Rob and runs like crazy::

Rob says:
::sticks his tongue out at Kooky::

Kooky says:
hehe

Hawkes says:
Well, somebody's not on a famine tonight! ;)

Trish says:
A few of the folks that have played the bad guu characters in ACTD, wound up with that it appears to be a part of of their natural makeup and it carried over into the lounge and interactions with people out of character, does that make sense?

Trish says:
Hi Rob

Hawkes says:
Trish: yes...'fraid so.

Rob says:
hi Trish

Kooky says:
Trish: Yup it does

Host Beth says:
Yep...but don't you think that would surface anyways if it was a part of their make-up?

Trish says:
and I am sure we have all run into those... it makes it very uncomfortable to be around them, 
that is why I think you should really know the person in a "good guy" character first

Hawkes says:
Beth: Most likely...unless they were a really focused actor.

Rob says:
::hides his personality just in case::

Kooky says:
lol

Trish says:
::thwaps Rob::

Host Beth says:
lol Rob...too late..we already know you ;)

Rob says:
::looks at Beth:: Beth: Do you? Do you really?

Rob says:
::laughs evily::

Host Beth says:
See?

Trish says:
Yes Beth, but I have seen people make a decided turn around when they realize the behavior is not "acceptable"

Rob says:
i have seen a few people that will push the envelope of tollerance as far as they can, and then only come back slightly

Trish says:
I love playing an npc bad guy, but most folks know me quite well and KNOW it is for "fun"

Trish says:
very true Rob

Kooky says:
::nods:: Yeah Trish is a pussy cat ...

Hawkes says:
Trish: Oh....now I get it. j/k :)

Trish says:
Þ

Host Beth says:
The one thing I think that defines an enjoyable bad character and a not so enjoyable one is the obnoxious level they play.....

Rob says:
I truly enjoy playing the bad guy.  sometimes too much......::grins::

Trish says:
exactly Beth...

Trish says:
and if blame is to be placed, it is the SM allowing it to continue

Host Beth says:
there is a difference between playing a bad person and a bad character...

Sy says:
yep

Ted says:
Yes bad guy who is flamboyant adds far more flavor to a game

Rob says:
right.  a bad guy in mission shouldnt be a bad guy in OOC

Hawkes says:
And I think there's a big difference from 'playing' a bad character, and being a bad person playing a bad character ;)

Trish says:
again whoever the person is, it shows in their relationship "outside" of the missions

Rob says:
::knows that he has shown nothing but his rosey personality OOC:: 

Rob says:
::Thwaps sandy for biting him earlier::

Trish says:
::lifts her feet to watch it flow past::

Hawkes says:
Well, let's face it, if it weren't for the bad guys, this whole thing would be entirely too vanilla for my tastes.  I mean if all we did was take tea and crumpets, and smile lovingly at everyone....yech!

Kooky says:
Rosy personality? You Rob?

Rob says:
::glares at sandy::

Kooky says:
I agree Hawkes ...

Trish says:
me 3 Hawkes

Rob says:
me 4

Kooky says:
And some ppl are just SO good at it ...

Trish says:
I think what we are all saying, is we believe in the goodness of people, or want to

Rob says:
Hey Sandy, that reminds me...I have been thinking of resurecting a certain character :)

Kooky says:
Oh no ...

Host Beth says:
This whole topic came out because I had an idea:  What about having a rogue ship as a regular ship with a rogue crew and everything.  I was thinking about how much fun it would be to captain a pirate ship and then thought others would like to be pirates too...

Trish says:
only if I can be the XO !!!!

Host Beth says:
lol

Rob says:
::will never get to XO::

Trish says:
and I can think of some really good folks who would do a super job in that area Beth!

Kooky says:
I'd be the Pakled engineer ...

Hawkes says:
Beth, I think that's a terrific idea...but it also changes the parameters of the discussion a little, since it would provide a viable environment for being such a character.

Trish says:
Beth, this is before you time, but when I first started training, I had a group of about 14 people who were my evil npcs

Host Beth says:
Not really...the point is..there are certain bad characters that are fun to play...

Host Beth says:
Thta last was to hawkes btw :)

Kooky says:
::nods:: lovable rogues ...

Hawkes says:
::nods:: yeah, I figured :)

Trish says:
Hawkes, do you feel picked on tonight? <G>

Rob says:
some people thrive on "being picked on".  I know I am one of them

Trish says:
::tickles Sy::  LTNS !

Hawkes says:
Trish: well, if I were experiencing anything unordinary I might...but this is about par for the course ;)

Sy says:
So would the "other" ships have opportunties to caught them :)  or aid then depending <BG>

Trish says:
roflmao!

Kooky says:
hmmm ... ::plots to pick on Rob::

Sy says:
ack

Sy says:
::tickles Trish back::

Sy says:
::grins::

Rob says:
oh come now, Sandy.  Like you have to plot :-p

Hawkes says:
lol

Kooky says:
lol ... who me? ::looks innocent::

Host Beth says:
Sy: that would be cool if we could dip in and out of other ship's missions...

Host Beth says:
Now THAT would be a great ACTD Wide :)

Trish says:
Beth, I have done that with the Cherokee

Kooky says:
And that would count me out :(

Rob says:
I agree with Sy on that one.  It would really make things interesting

Trish2 says:
You planning on SMing this prirate vessel Beth? ::grins::

Hawkes says:
hehe

Host Beth says:
Nope nope nope....not even for that will I go to the dark side...

Sy says:
LOL

Rob says:
I would enjoy being on a pirate vessel, as long as promtions went the Klingon way <eg>

Hawkes says:
Nah, I think she want's to CO it :)

Trish says:
Sandy, you can shoot him now!

Hawkes says:
Kidding Beth ;) ::small voice:: I'll be good.

Trish2 says:
It seems like a fun idea in theory... but what happens when players start power plays over 
each other?

Hawkes says:
Trish: I'd say a high turnover rate :)

Hawkes says:
Hi Cathy :)

Rob says:
thats when the SM needs to step in

Host Beth says:
Even on pirate vessels there is a CoC .... I watched Peter pan...

Trish says:
Trish, I have a ship that appears in and and of the Cherokee mission arcs, with just this premise

Hawkes says:
Well, at least she's done her research ;)

Trish says:
Hi Cathy!

Rob says:
right, even on  klingon ship there is a CoC.  you cant just go and kill someone for promotion

Rob says:
wb sandy

Hawkes says:
WB Kooky

Trish says:
wb Sandy

Sy says:
wb

Kooky says:
ty ty ty

Kooky says:
ty

Cathy says:
Hi Trish, Beth, Sandy!

Kooky says:
Cathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Host Beth says:
Hi cathy :)

Cathy says:
Heya Hawkes

Rob says:
hey Bill

Hawkes says:
Hi Bill

Trish says:
Hi Bill

Bill says:
heyy

Host Beth says:
Hi Bill...

Sy says:
Hey Bill

Host Beth says:
You know this ship might make a good SMiT ship

Kooky says:
Hiya Bill

Kooky says:
so where were we before my stupid computer moofed on me?

Trish2 says:
I don't think so Beth

Trish says:
I told you to shoot Rob, Sandy

Sy says:
I don't either

Rob says:
someone told you that you can shoot me

Trish2 says:
Abertura is hard enough

Hawkes says:
Beth: Nah, they'd kill each other before the first mission was over ;)

Kooky says:
ok ... 30 second lag again ...

Host Beth says:
Trish2: Why not?

Trish says:
am getting only 1 second on you Sandy

Kooky says:
It just went down

Host Beth says:
that's okay Kooky...you can take 30 seconds to shoot Rob :)

Bill says:
Abertura.  :)

Trish2 says:
Because for developing SMs they should have a consistant universe to work with

Hawkes says:
lol

Kooky says:
It's going up and down more times than a yo-yo

Rob says:
she needs to catch me first!

Trish says:
yesssssssssssssssssss ::watches the torment and terror on Rob's face::

Hawkes says:
::nods:: I agree Trish.

Trish2 says:
Like Abertura was hard for me to deal with because there are no specifications on Dominion 
Tech

Trish2 says:
which is why I had the plot off the station

Kooky says:
::gets out a tribble:: Rob: I got something for you :)

Rob says:
eeeeeeeeeeeeeek

Kooky says:
::adds a cat to the tribble::

Hawkes says:
Trish: I think you have a point, but pirate tech would most likely. imo, be a hodgepodge of whatever racial tech they can get ahold of.

Rob says:
::sneezes all over Sandy::

Kooky says:
ewww ...

Host Beth says:
Okay guys....let's get back to something resembling the topic here...you can torture Rob afterwards :)

Trish says:
ooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Sandy, I will let you borrow Troi's Angel! <EG>

Cathy says:
Why does the Dominion have to enter into the mission at all?

Trish2 says:
yes ther is that....

Bill says:
Because Abertura is a domininon station

Bill says:
was, prior to starfleet's arrival

Trish2 says:
Precisely Bill

Trish says:
like DS 9?

Hawkes says:
Sorta like DS9 wasn't SF tech.

Kooky says:
Thanks Trish!

Cathy says:
And that doesn't answer my question :)

Hawkes says:
gmta

Trish2 says:
DS9 is actually mostly SF under the cardassian interfaces

Cathy says:
You can still run a regular mission.

Trish2 says:
ok I am out of here

Trish says:
er em.... what happened?

Host Beth says:
Guess she had to go :)

Bill says:
Cathy: While I was there, we never once really talked about Dominion technology.  Mike certainly had entertaining missions without that aspect.

Cathy says:
Umm....yeah, something like that.

Hawkes says:
I don't know...but given the plot of the ST-TNG episode I'm watching...Its kinda creepy ;)

Cathy says:
That was what I was trying to say, Bill :)

Bill says:
I didn't want to really pop out and say it.  I was there when she was training as an SM.

Host Beth says:
So you guys don't think a rogue/pirate ship would be good for a SMiT ship?

Cathy says:
I was there as well, Bill, which is why I think she left :(

Bill says:
The technology isn't as important as the cultural dynamics between the Starfleet, Klingon, and Dominion personnel.  That's what made that situation so awesome, and difficult as an SM unless you're kind of familiar with t hings.

Hawkes says:
Beth: Nah, I'd say let it be a player ship. Might even bump up enrollment.

Trish says:
nah Beth... but good idea to offer it to SM's to use

Host Beth says:
It's okay guys...there may be several reasons why she left... :)

Rob says:
if a rogue ship was used for SMiT, it should be brought into action during ACTDWide

Cathy says:
As a player, I'd love to play on that kind of ship :)

Rob says:
Ditto, Cathy

Hawkes says:
::nods emphatically::

Rob says:
something that isnt quite as diciplined, so you can let your hair down per se

Trish says:
Cathy, you are NOT evil enough yet, my padiwan learner <EG>

Hawkes says:
lol

Host Beth says:
lol Trish

Rob says:
<------Council Master

Cathy says:
::laughs:: Try me, Trish. My crew has been in Hell for the last few weeks. :)

Kooky says:
hehe ... Yes she is, Trish

Trish says:
hehehe, I only do that to my trainees... my crew knows better than to mess with me <G>

Cathy says:
Poor Sandy had a few facial problems last week ;p

Trish says:
ooooooouuuuuuuuuu tell !

Kooky says:
Not to mention fingers falling off ..

Trish says:
LOLOL

Trish says:
you gotta send me that arc Cathy!

Rob says:
just ask susan.  when she asked me to NPC on arcadia station, she gave me some slight ideas, and i ran with it.....i was possitively brutal

Cathy says:
Sure will, Trish :)

Kooky says:
yeah ... I had a severe case of dry and cracked skin ...

Trish says:
thanks Cathy!

Host Beth says:
Which I had a blast with Rob :)

Hawkes says:
Beth: Of course, this begs the question that if ACTD opens up to a pirate ship (not that I'm against it mind you) why not have a Romulan Ship, or Cardassian, or Klingon...and I don't mean like the Q'lb.

Cathy says:
I told you to use some mositurizers.....

Rob says:
it kinda scared me in a way.  I took to the roll of assassin wayyyyyyyyy to easily

Host Beth says:
Joel...yep...and that's a whole 'nother ball of wax :)

Kooky says:
::throws her moisterizer in the bin:: I guess that one didn't work ..

Trish says:
this shouldn't be based on a race thing... just rogues!

Kooky says:
like the Maquis

Trish says:
exactly

Rob says:
or the Gatherers

Trish says:
they are my nemesis pirate ship that plague the Cherokee

Host Beth says:
Okay how about a Maquis ship then as a regular ship...

Trish says:
one problem with that Beth

Kooky says:
Didn't the Dominion wipe out the Maquis?

Rob says:
yup

Trish says:
"supposedly" the Marquis were wiped out... so to get around that you used Neo-Maquis

Rob says:
brb

Trish says:
personally there is NO way SF could convince me that all were destroyed... it just doesn't happen that way

Trish says:
which is the premise I use with the Cherokee

Host Beth says:
With as smart as the Maquis was I agree that they couldn';t have ALL been wiped out

Kooky says:
So a maquis ship COULD still exist ..

Trish says:
::nods::

Trish says:
I believe so Sandy

Trish says:
and could easily be rebuilding in strength

Trish says:
revenge is a strong incentive

Hawkes says:
The only problem with that ::being devil's advocate:: is that ACTD doesn't like to make logical extrapolations...or at least not to my knowledge. ::remembers the whole thing that they couldn't use a Sovereign class because they hadn't actually seen another one yet::

Trish says:
Hawkes, there is always more than one way to skin a cat

Hawkes says:
....not that I'm not 100% for the premise

Host Beth says:
But that Maquis storyline alone could take up several arcs...and then go on from there...

Trish says:
yup

Trish says:
mine has been ongoing for 3 years Beth

Kooky says:
Make it a crew of disenchanted Fed officers ...

Host Beth says:
Ooooo....Kooky...I like that :)

Trish says:
they did that with the Storm ACTD wide

Hawkes says:
disenchanted Fed officers...now that's just crazy talk! ;) j/k

Kooky says:
LOL

Sy says:
hehe

Kooky says:
hey ... aren't we all crazy anyway?

Trish says:
of course, we are here aren't we?

Sy says:
of course we are in ACTD :)

Kooky says:
I rest my case :)

Trish says:
<G>

Host Beth says:
lol

Hawkes says:
Trish: Am I? Am I really? ;)

Trish says:
nah, just a bunch of hot air Hawkes <BG>

Trish says:
Hey Beth, got that air conditioner handy?  ::peeks at Hawkes::

Hawkes says:
Hey, I guess that's better that being an evil oil slick/

Trish says:
LOLOL

Hawkes says:
::Hopes Trish is enjoying Pakled hospitality.::

Host Beth says:
rofl

Kooky says:
lol

Trish says:
oh God, you are not?

Kooky says:
They gonna make you go, Trish?

Hawkes says:
rofl

Trish says:
::gets out the Klingon cattle prod::  Not without a fight Sandy!

Kooky says:
::hides::

Host Beth says:
Let's say we get a rogue ship into ACTD....how would it work?  What sort of players would we need?  Characters?

Trish says:
outrageous ones?

Kooky says:
Characters could be former Fed officers who had to leave for disciplinary reasons or something like that?

Hawkes says:
Hmm... ::thinks....no comments from the studio audience please::

Host Beth says:
players or characters?  ;)

Trish says:
both! ::giggles::

Kooky says:
hehe

Trish says:
If the premise is truly pirates, remember they are robbers, plotters etc

Sy says:
I think you would find that you would need to limit the time that a player could be around

Kooky says:
or ... make it like Prism ..

Trish says:
I tend to think of them along the lines of a "mini" Orion Syndicate" kind of group

Sy says:
because there would be so many that would want to be a part of it

Sy says:
yeah like Prism

Bill says:
later all...still working on cover letter

Hawkes says:
Beth: It depends, if they're Maquis or the like, and have a unifying motive that'd be one thing, but a whole ship of peole playing pirates...they'd have to be good players of it'd be choas and anarchy. IMO

Kooky says:
That would work ...

Hawkes says:
<of = or>

Trish says:
that is the point Hawkes

Host Beth says:
How about this:  I create a drunken captain that got caught skimming selling used ship parts to the feringi...this captain gets kicked out of starfleet..uses the profits to buy a ship and looks around for crew...what sort of character would each of you like to be?

Trish says:
it cannot be folks that are goody two shoes

Hawkes says:
Beth: Do I get to shoot stuff? That's all I ask.

Trish says:
well, if you are asking

Host Beth says:
Yes Hawkes..you can shoot stuff

Kooky says:
It would be fun to be an engineer on a ship made up of bits and pieces ...

Trish says:
I want to be the hooker... who gets secrets out of men!  <EG>

Sy says:
It would need to be characters that have a passion for something

Kooky says:
ROFL Trish!!!!!!!!!!!

Sy says:
LOL

Host Beth says:
Trish: So you'd be the CNS ;)

Trish says:
I would say that would be it Beth!  <G>

Sy says:
ROFLOLO

Rob says:
I would be someone with contacts in numerous different races.  Like orions, klingons, romulans, carddies, etc

Kooky says:
hehe Randi would fit in

Trish says:
I think you could definitely say she would have a "passion"

Kooky says:
hehe

Rob says:
oh, and I would have to be a master assassin <eg>

Trish says:
oooooouuuuuuuuu good Rob

Rob says:
i just cant get that out of my head now.  Playing that part really makes me want to make a character like that

Hawkes says:
I think there might be a number of positions that have no SF counterpart. A face man, engineer, wespons obviously, pilot, I doubt there'd be a doctor...not a real one anyway. But maybe.

Trish says:
but I don't think ACTD would let us do it

Host Beth says:
So Rob...you'd be OPS

Host Beth says:
:)

Rob says:
OPS?

Rob says:
wouldnt I be better as a weapons man?

Trish says:
I agree with Hawkes, there would not be "normal" positions as such

Kooky says:
oooooo ... a doctor who likes to experiment ...

Rob says:
there ya go, sandy

Trish says:
::snickers::

Host Beth says:
Sure...every OPS has numerous shady contacts for those little bottles of Romulan Ale the CO likes so much ;)

Kooky says:
And has NO conscious ...

Rob says:
a doctor that was kicked out of practice for experimentation

Kooky says:
yeah ...

Hawkes says:
I have trouble imagining a true science officer also...more like an OPS with an imagination.

Rob says:
hmmm, is there training tonight?  

Trish says:
::wiggles past Rob, raising her eyebrows in his direction::

Rob says:
woooooooooooo!

Trish says:
Hey Big Boy! You were saying?

Host Beth says:
yes there is...

Kooky says:
Need any NPC's Beth?

Host Beth says:
Sure :)

Trish says:
Rob I will bring them to you, and you get to have your fun <EG>

Rob says:
but, if i was a master assassin, i wouldnt be paying for those services <eg>

Trish says:
Hey! NO freebies!

Rob says:
I would just simply.....take them

Kooky says:
That's what I'd be ... a doctor who likes experimenting on her vict ... err patients ... :)

Rob says:
how about a frisbee for a freebee?

Trish says:
LOLOL

Sy says:
you guys fit way to easily into these roles ;)

Trish says:
of course!

Kooky says:
Trish: Ever seen the inside of a Klingon? ::looks at Rob::

Rob says:
thats what i have been trying to say...I play the roll of an assassin way to easily

Trish says:
oooooouuuuuuuu no but I would love to Sandy!

Hawkes says:
Ok, I take back my initial statements. Obviously in every ACTDer lurks the heart of a pirate.

Rob says:
::grabs his Veron T disruptor and points it at sandy::

Trish says:
I hear they have two of everything...

Trish says:
::wiggles her eyebrows at Rob again::

Kooky says:
hmmm ... what would happen if I moved his liver to where his heart should be ...

Trish says:
which heart?

Host Beth says:
Okay so we got a drunken CO...A tart for a CNS...a kavorkian CMO and a black marketeer for OPS....now this is starting to sound like a good crew ;)

Rob says:
not 2 of EVERYTHING, ya know

Kooky says:
oh that's right ... he doesn't have one, does he?

Trish says:
LOLOLOL

Kooky says:
I removed it last week!

Trish says:
I think we need Speed Racer for TCO!

Trish says:
FCO

Hawkes says:
Don't forget a cowboy for a pilot and a swashbuckler for CTO.

Sy says:
CSO that has a "cause" could do it

Hawkes says:
Or...vice versa

Ted says:
Don't forget the engineer who smuggles on the side

Trish says:
well of course, we need a master smuggler

Trish says:
and at least one teenager as a spy !

Kooky says:
::can see this is all starting to take shape::

Hawkes says:
And someone who can smooth over local officials...and the occaisional nosy SF captain.

Rob says:
we should just get together sometime and do an OOM style rogue thing, and send it to the powers that be as an example :)

Host Beth says:
Trish: No the teenager would be the bait ;)

Hawkes says:
ROFL

Trish says:
well, I guess I will have to have Randi come and visit!

Host Beth says:
Rob...that's not a bad idea....hmmmmm

Kooky says:
For me to be able to do this it would have to be on either a Friday or Saturday .....

Sy says:
::sees Beth's wheels turning::

Trish says:
if this is really going somewhere, you need to ask Arlene and Carol to join in Beth

Rob says:
yes, deffinitly

Hawkes says:
Beth: I'd suggest looking at something like "Ronin" or "Ocean's 11" for a basic crew structure.

Trish says:
ut oh, the BOSS is here! ::smiles sweetly:: Hi James!

Hawkes says:
Hi James.

Rob says:
oceans 11 was awsome

Sy says:
::giggles:: Hey James

Kooky says:
Wasn't it ..

Kooky says:
Hi James

James says:
:;waves:: hi folks

Rob says:
hi James

Host Beth says:
::smiles sweetly at James:: Oh we weren't cooking up anything...nothing at all

Hawkes says:
Beth: then just translate it to ACTD

Host Beth says:
<cooking>

Rob says:
::hides all the transcripts from this, umm, meeting::

Trish says:
we were talking about bad characters and good characters James, of course we know which one you fall into <G>

Kooky says:
::eats the transcript:: he won't get it out of me!

James says:
good character?

Hawkes says:
::hears beth, and plays along:: Yep, so I think we're all in agreement that only people who want to play really squeaky clean characters who would never cause or participate in any sort of trouble should be in ACTD. Yep! Completely. ;)

Trish says:
::passes Sandy hers as well::

Rob says:
it has to come out sometime, sandy <ewww>

Sy says:
AH good :) He made a lovely CDT

Kooky says:
LOL Rob!

Kooky says:
No thanks, Trish ... I'm full now :)

Rob says:
of what?

Sy says:
hehe

Trish says:
::takes it and then stuffs it down Rob's throat::

Kooky says:
::glares at Rob::

Kooky says:
hot air?

Rob says:
::gargagaaiokow agoijwoanenv in oinowaoweinf ~!!!!::

Host Beth says:
Actually I think James would be a great CTO on the ship....

Trish says:
hehehe, he can't talk with his mouth full Sandy

Host Beth says:
or the cowboy hotshot pilot ;)

Kooky says:
LOL ... I noticed!

Trish says:
oooooouuuuuuuuuu yes, he loves to blow up things that don't go!

Hawkes says:
lol

Rob says:
It wont go, it is broken

Trish says:
especially recalcitrant crew!

Kooky says:
::chuckles:: my log is STILL only 7 words long ...

Hawkes says:
Kooky: The same 7 words?

Kooky says:
yup

Rob says:
You're fired! Get off my ship, NOW!

Hawkes says:
Kooky: Hey, 7s good :)

Kooky says:
YOUR ship?

Rob says:
well, thats 7 words :)

Kooky says:
LOL!

James says:
I like being a cadet

Trish says:
Beth, James is acting like he is ignoring us...

Sy says:
thinks they are hoplessly off topic::

Host Beth says:
Well folks...it's that time again...Thanks for coming and participating!  Everyone who wants to talk some more about this idea email me at: trekkie@direcway.com

Trish says:
I will Beth, just let me know!!!

Trish says:
Hi Phil

James says:
or an engineer or a science officer or a flight control officer

Sy says:
Hey Phil

Hawkes says:
Beth: You'll be hearing from me ;)

Phil says:
hi

Hawkes says:
Hi Phil :)

Kooky says:
I wanna be the evil Doctor!!

Sy says:
Me to Beth :)

Kooky says:
::stamps her foot::

Rob says:
Beth: I am at your disposal for anything....of course :)

Trish says:
yeah, you know my roll Beth...

Rob says:
::looks for that wiggle again::

Sy says:
I will work on the CSO spot :)

Host Beth says:
Cool...but I need everyone to email me so I can build a mail string :)

Hawkes says:
Beth: Of course, I'm always available for your XO needs in this thing ;)

Hawkes says:
Beth: seriously though...you'll be hearing from me.

Rob says:
ditto

Host Beth says:
Cool...this sounds like it will be fun :)