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Topic:  Open Forum

Stardate 10305.02
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Host Beth says:
Anybody got a topic they want to talk about tonight?

Jane says:
Let's talk about William Shatner.

Kooky says:
Why?

Shadow-9 says:
the bigger question is why not

Host Beth says:
Okay......let's begin :)

William says:
sorry I'm late was installing a new mouse

Host Beth says:
Who has something they want to talk about tonight?

Host Beth says:
np - Ted :)

Host Beth says:
Anyone?

Kooky says:
Comparing all the series against each other? ::shrugs ... just a suggestion::

Host Beth says:
Sure....or there was a suggestion to talk about William Shatner...Jane anything in particular?

Jane says:
His hair?

Kooky says:
hehe

Host Beth says:
lol

Ted says:
Hey it was a nice toupee

Jane says:
It looked like a tribble

Dawn says:
LOL that is what i was thinkinh

Kooky says:
hehe

Dawn says:
<thinking>

Host Beth says:
Okay how about this: Who thinks that William Shatner can actually be called an actor?

Jane says:
He's a character actor

Jane says:
So yeah

Kooky says:
yeah ... ::remembers TJ Hooker::

Host Beth says:
Really?

Ted says:
with some training he may have gone a lot farther as an actor

Jane says:
He's a Canadian.  Give him a break.  :)

Host Beth says:
hehe...

Ted says:
He admited in a interview that he had tried to train himself as an actor.  That's where the over emphasis on lines came from

Kooky says:
No comment on the Canadian thing ...

Ted says:
Well if you insist....no I'll be a gentleman

Kooky says:
Ted?

Host Beth says:
Folks...sorry..I'll brb..something is in with the horses...Kooky's gonna take charge for a moment...

Ted says:
Yes

Jane says:
Go Sandy!!!!!!!!!!

Host Kooky says:
::gulps::

Shadow-9 says:
:)

Jane says:
Let's talk about.....

Host Kooky says:
You were going to say something, Ted?

Jane says:
Beth!

Host Kooky says:
LOL

Ted says:
No, no country bashing tonight

Host Kooky says:
ah ok

Dawn says:
if the current topic is getting old, let's talk about why Star Trek is special to everyone.  Like why is it special to you

Jane says:
Nice topic Dawn.  :)

Dawn says:
heeee

Host Kooky says:
I like that idea, Dawn. Who wants to go first?

Jane says:
I love the values it teaches... at least TOS did... now Enterprise is as well.

Shadow-9 says:
does that mean we'll have to talk about our... ::gulp:: feelings?

Jane says:
LOL

Host Kooky says:
James: yup!

Shadow-9 says:
hrm :\

Host Kooky says:
What about TNG?

Ted says:
When I was young watching St

Shadow-9 says:
::pokes the conversation with a stick::

Dawn says:
Well, ST is extra special to me because my father turned me onto to when I was a child.  In fact, we used to watch S

Dawn says:
EEEK!

Ted says:
dang this new mouse, brb

Dawn says:
Star Trek together and during the commercials, we would talk about it

Jane says:
Nice memory Dawn.

Dawn says:
I miss those days, I cna't talk to my father about it now

Host Kooky says:
Indeed.

Host Kooky says:
Hiya Pam! We're talking about "Why Star Trek is special to you".

Dawn says:
<can't>

Pam says:
it keeps me off the streets?

Jane says:
LOL

Host Kooky says:
LOL

Dawn says:
:)

Jane says:
Woo hoo!

Host Kooky says:
I was the only person in my house who liked ST ... I used to lock myself away to watch it

Shadow-9 says:
I was usually locked away for another reason, but same with me.

Jane says:
I watched it as a child as well.  It reflected all those 60s values.

Shadow-9 says:
60s values huh.

Host Kooky says:
It certainly did

Jane says:
Make love not war stuff

Shadow-9 says:
that's true

Host Kooky says:
Or you could say "what values" ::grins::

Jane says:
It really helped shape my values as an adult.

Pam says:
oh sure, Kirk certainly passed the love around.

Jane says:
He was a busy boy for sure.

Host Kooky says:
I'm surprised he only had one child ... ::runs::

Pam says:
love 'em and leave 'em Captain

Dawn says:
that's what I was thinking

Host Kooky says:
Anybody else got a comment?

Ted says:
sorry I had to go but my new mouse wouldn't play nice with the computer.  Had to get a hammer a make an adjustment

Shadow-9 says:
This conversation sucks

Jane says:
LOL

Dawn says:
What would you suggest James?

Shadow-9 says:
I don't make suggestions, just criticisms :P

Host Kooky says:
I was just gonna ask that myself :)

Jane says:
ROFL

Host Beth says:
Sorry about that guys...everything is fine.  I have a mare that's about to foal and &@!^%& dogs keep getting in the corrals...anyone got a shotgun I can borrow?  <bg>

Jane says:
How about this one:  What if the prime directive was implemented now.  How would things change in our world?

Ted says:
no want to borrow a 44 magnum

Pam says:
use your phaser Captain

Host Beth says:
lol

Host Kooky says:
::hands Beth a photon torpedo:: This should do the trick

Host Beth says:
Good topic Jane...lol Kooky :)

Host Beth says:
Anyone about Jane's topic?

Host Kooky says:
How would that work? Country to country?

Jane says:
This could get politically hot, btw...

Ted says:
Or even state to state

Jane says:
Country to Country... what if there was a global policy of non-interference?

Host Kooky says:
hmmm ...

Host Beth says:
Hmmm...I was thinking of something else...maybe this is a little too politically charged right now

Shadow-9 says:
politically charged is good

Host Beth says:
Not right now...too many feelings :)

Jane says:
Okay.

Host Beth says:
Actually I have been wondering something and I was going to use this next week but let's try it now:

Host Kooky says:
or ... If you could change the Prime Directive ... what would it be?

Host Beth says:
Do you think that some positions need to be either removed or chenged?  ie: CIV on any ship and FCO on a station?

Jane says:
hummm...

Host Kooky says:
I can't see the need for an FCO on a station ... it doesn't go anywhere!

Ted says:
Good point

Pam says:
but there is always a ship attached to the station

Host Kooky says:
True ...

Host Kooky says:
I forgot about that :)

Host Beth says:
But how often is it used?

Pam says:
depends on the station

Jane says:
Okay.. well.. I tried being a CNS on a defiant class... crew of 40... that was challenging.

Pam says:
or if you were on Abertura then the FCO would be in charge of the vehicles

Pam says:
any ground transportation

Jane says:
get to drive the all terrain vehicles...

Host Kooky says:
stations also have runabouts and shuttles ...

Host Beth says:
The reason I ask is that we have crew critical ships that have someone in the CIV position....and crew critical stations that have FCO's.

Pam says:
yep

Host Beth says:
Has anyone played one of these positions?

Host Kooky says:
hehe ... a kitten just jumped into my lap

Pam says:
CIV spots are usually held by players that have another character

Pam says:
like a former CO

Pam says:
less responsibility

Pam says:
hee

Jane says:
A CIV on an Akira has lots of responsibilities... class specific though.

Pam says:
Jack of all trades, master of none

Pam says:
hard to play class specific

Host Kooky says:
lol

Host Beth says:
Although lot's of times it's held by someone who won't take a junior position....like they want to be CSO but that slot is taken so they becopme a science 'specialist' in the CIV department...

Jane says:
Maybe the positions on the ship/station should be more specific to the class

Host Beth says:
Now that's an idea Jane...

Jane says:
Welcome Rob

Host Kooky says:
If that were the case then how could ship to ship transfers work?

Host Kooky says:
Hiya Rob!!!!!!!!!!

Rob says:
hi

Pam says:
I have on that is a tac specialist but I have a full tac team already....so she plays other 
positions

Rob says:
Sandy!!!!!!!!!

Pam says:
er one

Pam says:
Hi Rob

Rob says:
hi Pam

Host Beth says:
Hello Rob....this is just an open forum tonight....anything you want to talk about?  :)

Host Beth says:
Kooky: I think they would have to change positions to meet the new criteria for that ship.

Host Kooky says:
::nods::

Rob says:
oh, i think that i will see what other conversations are going on, and jump into one

Host Beth says:
Anyone else?

Jane says:
Try being a CNS on a Defiant.  It's ridiculous.  They don't even have private quarters much less an office.

Host Kooky says:
Is that why Mikal is going nuts on us, Jane?

Host Beth says:
True Jane...although I think they would need it the most :)

Jane says:
LOL

Rob says:
I notices that the CNS position is one that has a high turnover of players

Host Beth says:
Maybe two CNS positions...one for the crew and one for the other CNS ;)

Jane says:
I've been playing it off and on since 99

Jane says:
LOL

Host Kooky says:
lol

Host Kooky says:
Our CNS needs one!

Host Kooky says:
::looks at Jane::

Pam says:
yeah, who counsels the counselor?

Rob says:
when our CNS is there, that is

Rob says:
Guinnan

Host Beth says:
Hehe...the Del hasn't had one for a long time...

Host Beth says:
Maybe we are all just too nuts for them and they can't handle it so they all become CTOs :)

Rob says:
hey, I resemble that remark!

Jane says:
That's funny.... my two favourite positions are CNS and CTO

Host Beth says:
I rest my case <bg>

Jane says:
heee...

Host Kooky says:
LOL Beth

Rob says:
::sharpens his big Klingon teeth in preperation::

Host Kooky says:
So what is everyone's fav positions and why?

Dawn says:
heeee I 1st played a CNS on the Ganymede then was promoted to XO but it was too much for me so i am now OPS on the gany

Host Kooky says:
::runs from Rob's teeth ... learned that lesson from personal experience::

Pam says:
other than CO.......FCO, cause she likes to be in control...lol

Host Kooky says:
hee Pam

Rob says:
I completely enjoy my CTO roll on the Scorpius.  My new character is CMO on the Don Johnson.  only been doing that for 3 weeks, so i really dont have an opinion yet

Pam says:
course SM is really neat....really evil

Host Beth says:
hmmmm...other than CO...CTO because after a long day at work it's so much fun to blow 
something up :)

Host Kooky says:
hehe

Pam says:
lol

Ted says:
lol

Host Kooky says:
I loved being CEO ... it was fun fixing things after everyone blew them up!

Jane says:
OPS is fun too.  Cause your always in the middle in the action.

Pam says:
speaking of the dark side.......:;smiles at Beth::

Host Kooky says:
::hangs onto Beth:: I'll save you, Beth!

Rob says:
I did my best to destroy things for you, Sandy <beg>

Host Beth says:
::hides behind Kooky:: Pam: Never..you will never get me!

Host Kooky says:
I'm enjoying OPS too ... very busy position ... especially when you char has to handle all stations on the bridge!

Ted says:
::grabs on to Beth:: Here we go again

Host Beth says:
lol Ted

Host Beth says:
All right let's take a tally here....who has played what?  I have CSO, CTO, OPS, XO, CO and CNS under my belt....anyone else?

Host Kooky says:
I'm also enjoying XO :)

Jane says:
CNS, CTO, OPS, XO, CO

Host Kooky says:
I've been XO, CEO, EO, TO and for short time was a CMO

Pam says:
CO, CNS, XO, FCO, EO, SO, CSO,

Ted says:
I've got EO & CEO handled

Rob says:
i've done TO, CTO and CMO

Pam says:
or and MO

Dawn says:
I have been CIV, CNS,  TO,  XO, and OPS

Pam says:
er oh

Host Kooky says:
oops ... I forgot OPS

Pam says:
nice to try different positions

Host Beth says:
So let's say you could only pick one....on one ship....past or present...which would it be?

Host Kooky says:
I didn't think I'd enjoy CMO ... but I did!

Rob says:
my original character was supposed to be an MO, but I decided that I wanted TO instead

Pam says:
in ACTD guys......::can see the wheels turning::

Host Beth says:
rofl Pam

Host Kooky says:
Archer's Enterprise

Rob says:
oh, hands down, I would keep my CTO Character on the Scorpius, thats my main character

Pam says:
my main character moved on.... :(

Host Kooky says:
oh in ACTD ... My Scorp character ... like Rob she's my main character

Jane says:
CNS on the Pen

Rob says:
unless, of course, he was promoted to XO or CO ::winks at sandy::

Dawn says:
OPS on the Ganymede

Host Kooky says:
But it is very hard to choose between the two ... I enjoy playing both of them immensely

Host Beth says:
Pam....let's say you can go back...which would it be?  And you can include SM also :)

Host Kooky says:
Back Rob! ::glares::

Pam says:
I like my Sheridan character

Pam says:
worked long and hard on her

Rob says:
oh, if I take XO, you can have CO, sandy <eg>

Host Kooky says:
hmmm ... ::plots::

Host Kooky says:
But that would mean taking out AQilla's husband as well ...

Rob says:
we could always send Eric to the planet of perpetually single men <rbeg>

Host Kooky says:
And the FCO, and the Captain

Host Kooky says:
ROFL

Host Beth says:
You know that brings up another idea:  What about having a renegade ship as a permanent 
ship in ACTD?

Jane says:
oooohhhhh

Rob says:
Russ can be promoted, and transfered to star fleet intelligence

Jane says:
What fun ACTDwides could be....

Rob says:
oh oh oh oh!

Ted says:
Interesting idea

Host Kooky says:
Now wouldn't it be fun to play a character on that!

Pam says:
well I'm off, mission time........{{{{{{{{{{{{Friends}}}}}}}}}] enjoy

Rob says:
I wish there was a way to create a character that could be a "guest star" on any ship, like when I played Jaxx.......::plots::

Shadow-9 says:
bye Pam

Rob says:
but have that character be perminant, sort of

Host Beth says:
Have a crew mutiny and keep the ship....I think this might be the subject for next week..eh? <bg>

Host Kooky says:
I've only ever played a baddie once ... it was great fun!

Jane says:
I think so Beth

Host Kooky says:
hehe ... we did that on the Scorp once ... disobeyed orders and took off with the ship :)

Host Beth says:
What if it could interact with other ships in the fleet too?

Rob says:
wasnt that the one that got eric demoted?

Host Kooky says:
yup

Rob says:
when i played an assassin on arcadia station, that was close to the best fun that i had so far

Dawn says:
well, time for me to go, work calls early for me tmw. cya next week.

Rob says:
short of when I played T`Ran, and nobody knew it!

Host Kooky says:
Nite Dawn

Host Beth says:
Night Dawn

Rob says:
good night Dawn

Host Beth says:
Hehe...you were a good assasin Rob

Rob says:
thats the fun part of me.  I can NPC any character, but you have to set me free to do it.  then watch out, you will NEVER know what i will say or do next <eg>

Host Kooky says:
NPC'ing in training is fun ...

Host Beth says:
And we looooove having you guys NPC :)

Host Kooky says:
It's also good for the cadets :)

Rob says:
i would love to help out with training a new victi.....err cadet :)

Jane says:
Are we getting lots of cadets?

Host Beth says:
:: sigh:: No unfortunately

Jane says:
We need new blood.  :)

Host Beth says:
Not for chat... :: brightens:: But PBeM and  Newsfleet I understand are getting several

Host Kooky says:
Jane: Like the CIV on the Pen?

Host Kooky says:
I couldn't do PBeM ... I like the interaction with chat

Jane says:
He's holding up rather well, Sandy.  I think we'll make a good player out of him.

Host Kooky says:
That's one character that has been through a lot since he came aboard :)

Jane says:
I couldn't do PBeM either... couldn't get character interaction going at all

Jane says:
heee...

Rob says:
sadly, we killed off our CTO on the Don Johnson last night......and this after only two weeks on the job :(

Jane says:
That was quick work

Host Kooky says:
ouch

Host Beth says:
Awwww....

Rob says:
something came up in his personal life, and he had to bow out

Rob says:
he has other characters in ACTD, i believe though

Jane says:
We should have a themed chat about all the cool ways SM's have killed our characters

Host Kooky says:
And we lost our CEO ... so who's gonna fix the Scorp now?

Rob says:
well, a few SM's tried their best to kill me off, but they always failed :)

Rob says:
you will, you can double as XO and CEO <g>

Host Beth says:
Oooo...now that's a good one Jane

Host Kooky says:
I can proudly say none of my characters have died ... they've come close, though

Host Kooky says:
(((((((((((((((((((( Gilles )))))))))))))))))))))

Jane says:
Gilles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob says:
i even survived my academy training :)

Host Beth says:
Heya Gilles :)

Gilles says:
::pouts:: I missed all the fun

Jane says:
I didn't.

Rob says:
hi Gilles

Host Kooky says:
Neither did I

Gilles says:
::waves::  {{{{{{{{{{{{{ Friends }}}}}}}}}}}

Host Kooky says:
How's the Pharoah going?

Gilles says:
::grins:: It is in pieces :-)

Host Kooky says:
Again?

Jane says:
Yes, what have you blown up lately?

Jane says:
ah...

Rob says:
i had just ordered ens. redshirt into a conduit that was about to explode, then the server booted us all off.  when we got back, it was too late to continue, and i lived!

Jane says:
Close call Rob

Gilles says:
They still can't get in the bridge... there's a hole where it used to be :-)

Host Kooky says:
::nods:: I remember that ...

Rob says:
if i remember correctly, i was training as CEO that night

Host Kooky says:
I can't remember what position I played in training ... it was too long ago

Host Beth says:
Hope that doesn't happen to the Del...I just got a chair with no lump in it... hate to have it blown 
up :)

Host Beth says:
That's okay Kooky...I'll blow you up tonight if you want :)

Ted says:
Don't worry my captain I'll fix it

Host Kooky says:
hee!

Rob says:
oh, sandy, wait till tomorrow.  i can accidentially blow up the ship if you like :)

Host Beth says:
::beams at her CEO:: Why thank you :)

Gilles says:
::thinks:: I threw a tribble at Trish in training :-)

Host Kooky says:
You can fix it, Rob :)

Host Kooky says:
hehehe Gilles!!!!!!

Host Beth says:
I had Don Johnson....I believe he made me lose gravity in enginering and I had to fix everything floating upside down :)

Gilles says:
::bonks a tribble off Beth's head::

Rob says:
will we have our SM back tomorrow night?

Host Kooky says:
yup

Host Beth says:
::rubs her head:: Ouch.....watch it bub!

Rob says:
and our TO?

Jane says:
Don killed me horribly in training.  :)

Gilles says:
<Tribble>  Squeek !

Rob says:
hey, tribbles are soft and cuddly, unless you are a klingon

Host Kooky says:
::accidentally steps on the tribble::

Rob says:
hmmm ::gets an idea::

Host Beth says:
Yeah he killed us the last night....body parts were flying everywhere...he was a lot of fun :)

Ted says:
EWWW, Tribble squeezins

Host Kooky says:
Dunno about the TO though, Rob

Host Kooky says:
She should be back

Rob says:
well, as long as i get a moment or two to breath, i can NPC gunner for a while

Host Beth says:
::walks over to the replicator and slips on the squished tribble and lands on her butt:: All: All right...who left smushed tribble on the floor?

Rob says:
but that one night, i was going out of my mind

Host Kooky says:
::hides::

Host Kooky says:
::nods:: It's hard playing more than one char in the same mission ... I did it once and couldn't keep up

Host Beth says:
::gets up and wipes her hands on her pants and looks back at her seat:: Aw man...I got tribble guts on my caboose! Kooky!!

Host Kooky says:
::looks innocent::

Rob says:
throw in Pel Tor, and forget it, I was totally lost for a while that night

Host Beth says:
BTW: Thankyou guys for participating in the themed chat tonight....next week we'll discuss having the renegade ship idea.

Host Kooky says:
cool

Jane says:
Yay!!!

Jane says:
::marks it on her calendar::

Rob says:
what about expanding that to include renegade characters?

Host Beth says:
Sure Rob :)  And now I gotta go wash tribble goo off of my sit-em-down-on.....

Rob says:
that sounds Indian, sort of

Jane says:
Thanks Beth!

Gilles says:
<Tribble> ::reproduces in the mess ::

Host Beth says:
Rob: Southern....my granny always used to holler at us: You better plant it on your sit-em-down-on otherwise I'll tan your hide!

Rob says:
:-)

Host Beth says:
Okay thanks again guys....gotta check on the mare before training...all NPC's are welcome in the training rooms :)