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Topic:  Open Forum

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Host Beth says:
::looks around the room and grins:: Looks like a lot of people have something to say tonight :)

Gilles says:
I say that I have a lot to hear :-)

Kooky says:
LOL ... me too Gilles

Host Beth says:
Hmmmm...if everyone is here just to listen this is going to be awfully quiet <bg>

Kooky says:
hehe

Keely says:
lol

Kooky says:
Hiya Cathy and Janne

Janne says:
hi

Gilles says:
Hmmm.... ok.... I'll bite then.....   would you folks like a place to evaluate your SM... in confidence of course....

Gilles says:
?

Kooky says:
hmmm ... ::plots::

Host Beth says:
While ya'll are mulling over the answers let me throw out a few ground rules.....no racial or sexual topics allowed..must be kept PG rated.

Cathy says:
Clarify, please?

Cam says:
Not really... I never like writing evaluations that much

Kooky says:
OK ... I'll start ... I think Cathy (my SM on the Pen) is doing a fantastic job ... :)

Keely says:
I have had the opportunity to do that already with my SMs

Woody says:
I have had to rate my SM before - but it was a commad staff only evaluation

Ted says:
No my motto is if you can't say it to their face, don't say it behind their backs

Gilles says:
Keely... do you it is a good thing?

Cathy says:
Thanks, Sandy :) But you really don't have to say that.

Kooky says:
We have that opportunity on the Scorpius too ...

Kooky says:
Cathy: Yes I do cause it's true

Gilles says:
<do you think>

Keely says:
Yes I do think it is a good thing :)

Woody says:
More a meeting than an eval I think.....Both my SM's (current) have been open, for the most part

Kooky says:
Yes I think it is ... It gives the SM valuable feedback on where he/she may need to improve

Ted says:
Yes I agree with a meeting

Host Beth says:
Gilles: I'd like to add to that if I may...would you also like a place to evaluate your command staff too?

Gilles says:
Meeting?..... Woody: Alone ?   You in a room with SM?  Or a group thing?

Gilles says:
Beth: I do that :-)

Host Beth says:
But not all SM's do, Gilles...

Gilles says:
::nods:: True

Kooky says:
Hiya Pam

Keely says:
Hey Pam

Pam says:
Hi all

Host Beth says:
Hey Pam....the current topic is "would you folks like a place to evaluate your SM... in confidence of course...."

Woody says:
Hey Pam

Pam says:
Oooooooo a hot topic

Kooky says:
Blame Gilles ... ::Grins::

Gilles says:
LOL  Everyone does... ::rolls eyes::

Cathy says:
My SM did an evaluation. She ahd all of the crew mail it to the CO, who then erased all details of whom the information came from.

Kooky says:
LOL

Pam says:
::looks down the list at the SMs in here::

Cam says:
If you can't bring up a problem to someone, I say you have 2 choices. 1 Just let it die. 2 Transfer

Kooky says:
Coot!!!!!!!!

Cathy says:
Heya Coot

Coot says:
Is is Saturday by chance?  ::eyes all his fellow Pen'ers::   : )

Gilles says:
LOL Hya Coot

Kooky says:
Coot: It is here :)

Pam says:
Well of course SMs should be evaluated.

Coot says:
Evening Gilles!!  ::points a few lines up::  note the speeling?

Gilles says:
:-P

Cathy says:
Your SM should be approachable, Cam.

Ted says:
If such a room was created, who would be responsible for giving the results to the SM.  Afterall the SM can't fix it if they don't know what's broke

Kooky says:
I'd say the CO would be responsible ... what do others think?

Gilles says:
Ted: How about a website?

Coot says:
SM Evals?   I'm all for it.

Pam says:
The Captain should send an email to the SM

Host Beth says:
Cathy: We had a round robin on the Del where everyone went evaluated the CO/XO and SM....all  identifying remarks were edited out ....I think it was extremely benficial for the crew

Kooky says:
On the Scorp we have a Bulletin Board for evals accessible to the Command Staff only ...

Cam says:
If your SM scares you so much that you can't talk to them, that really needs some working out and an eval won't do that

Ted says:
Or a posting on the newgroup would be sufficient

Coot says:
I think the point you need to remember is whatever is done needs to be confidential

Cathy says:
::nods:: It is a good idea in essence.......but many people may be intimidated by being judged by 13 others...command staff included.

Ted says:
<newsgroup>

Gilles says:
Ok.... about the evals... if one player posts something about a SM... should other players be able to see it?

Host Beth says:
I don't see why the CO shouldn't be able to recieve the evals and edit them for the SM eval...

Coot says:
::agrees::

Antony says:
edit them in what way?

Cathy says:
I think the eavls should be confidential.

Ted says:
How many people are you judged by in a day while just doing what you normally do.  Can't live in fear of judgement

Cathy says:
<evals>

Host Beth says:
Cathy: This may sound harsh....but if they can't take the heat they shouldn't be in command...

Host Beth says:
Or SM...just my humble opinion

Pam says:
Gilles that could create a pre-conceived idea for people about a particular SM.

Keely says:
I agree

Kooky says:
I think the point is ... they (the SMs) are in a position of responsibility. Why shouldn't they be accountable to the people under them?

Cathy says:
I personally don't live in fear, Ted. I have an open door policy. But I do know of people on my own ship who would obsess about what others thought of them.

Coot says:
A standard form should be developed, sent to the crew and returned to the CO so averages / summaries can be posted to everyone on the string for the ship.

Gilles says:
How about limiting evals to the players of the ship/station in question?

Gilles says:
(To see that is...)

Pam says:
Of course some command officers still refuse to turn to the dark side, but we will get them eventually.

Keely says:
lol

Coot says:
slackers

Host Beth says:
Coot: Good idea....Gilles: I think that should be a given...::thwaps Pam:: :)

Ted says:
No offense intended Cathy, was speaking in generalities not to a specific situation

Kooky says:
LOL Pam

Coot says:
Just be careful that Cathy's open door doesn't lead to it getting slammed on your fingers...  <eg>

Kooky says:
Cathy: Would you do that?

Cathy says:
None taken, Ted, I sear. I'm just playing devils advocate.

Cathy says:
<swear>

Coot says:
::bets she would if you messed with her chocolate::

Gilles says:
::nods:: Always a good idea to have more than one side

Host Beth says:
Cathy wouldn't do that!  She's cool...

Cathy says:
Do what, Sandy? Slam a door on Coot's hand?

Kooky says:
LOL

Kooky says:
Yeah

Coot says:
Yes Cathy would.... right after dressing me up in the chicken suit

Cathy says:
Sure....but I'd let them sew his fingers back on........

Pam says:
Remember, SM evaluations does not mean that the SM will be removed if the general opinion 
is that he/she is not doing a good job.

Kooky says:
I think the SM needs feedback ... just my humble opinion

Host Beth says:
True Pam...

Gilles says:
Very true Pam... good or bad... we need input

Coot says:
I do evals at work at the time... I can draw up a general premise and then submit it for review to Game Staff.

Pam says:
We like to know what we are doing wrong (of course we are perfect in every way) so that we can make improvements in order to make the missions more exciting for our crews.

Ted says:
That would be good as long as the evaluation wasn't too lengthy, keep it from becoming a witch hunt

Host Beth says:
We found out some very interesting things from our evals...things we weren't even aware of.

Coot says:
The Method needs to be simple.  Ratings 1 - 10 and space for comments.  Send to CO, average the numbers and summarize the comments....

Host Beth says:
That sounds simple enough, Coot

Ted says:
With a small area for comments to address any specific problems

Kooky says:
That could work

Gilles says:
How many questions?

Cam says:
I hate 1-10 ratings

Coot says:
Ten at most, grouped

Cathy says:
Then how about 1-5?

Pam says:
too many.....

Coot says:
Okay then: Very Poor, Poor, Okay, Good, Very Good

Cam says:
1-3. 1 if it was bad, 2 for good, 3 for great

Pam says:
the longer it is the less people want to fill it out

Host Beth says:
Although I would suggest a small comment area for each question....simply because many times I don't agree with the way a question is worded and would like to write an answer...make that optional.

Cam says:
A bunch of folks (me) don't have degrees of good and bad

Coot says:
::agreed::

Kooky says:
Hiya Theresa!

Coot says:
then go with N/A for every answer

Theresa says:
Hi!

Pam says:
List the things you like in one column and things that need to be improved in a second 
one.......keep it simple

Host Beth says:
Welcome Theresa....we're discussing SM evaluation methods...

Ted says:
If we are asking if such a form should exist, why not ask the people in this room what questions they want asked

Theresa says:
I was just about to ask

Theresa says:
And how many SM's are here?

Kooky says:
I can see four that I know of :)

Coot says:
line them all up, throw cream pies at them, those who stay clean are doing great!

Pam says:
Spelling- for Gilles 1, but we like him just the same..lol

Kooky says:
LOL Coot!

Gilles says:
:-) Päm

Host Beth says:
lol Coot

Gilles says:
Coot: I'd think those with the most cream on them are doing great !!  LOL

Cathy says:
Most of the SMs here are also players on other ships.

Coot says:
no, those are just the Most Evil.....

Pam says:
Remember people, be gentle, for someday you too may cross the great divide an be one of us.

Gilles says:
::nods:: Quite a few Cathy

Pam says:
<and>

Theresa says:
Who does the evaluations?  The SM and captain?

Host Beth says:
The CO would gather them and comdense them for the SM

Kooky says:
The whole crew would have input ... correlated by the CO and forwarded to the SM

Host Beth says:
Pam: Some will never cross to the dark side :)

Cathy says:
These would be evaluations OF your SM, Theresa, not by your SM.

Pam says:
Never say never Beth..

Theresa says:
Oh...that's different.

Kooky says:
I'm with you, Beth :)

Host Beth says:
::grabs onto her chair with both hands and shakes her head at Pam:: Nope, nope nope nope...

Host Beth says:
::grins at Kooky::

Kooky says:
::is quite happy to remain mortal for now::

Cathy says:
::used to say that as well::

Pam says:
You know, it might be a good idea for each ship manager to hold a crew meeting say every few months, where players can express their opinions about how an SM is doing. Then offer some ways for the SM to improve.

Host Beth says:
I'm not sure that people would be free to say what they think though....

Theresa says:
Do most of the SM's want to be evaluated?

Kooky says:
Or ... even better ... Have a crew meeting without the SM present ...

Ted says:
But that takes us back to the fear factor again

Pam says:
Ted, explain to me the "fear factor" please

Cathy says:
I tried to get that idea passed a few years ago, Sandy.

Antony says:
I think the eval form is more likely to work than meetings

Ted says:
People afraid of being judged for what they are saying

Host Beth says:
Ted: The fact is that we have young players, shy players and players that won't say anything to someone's face for fear of hurting their feelings.  Many people are friends with their SM...

Cam says:
Would these eval forms be required?

Cathy says:
Speaking truthfully......I wouldn't be able to judge my SM fairly, but that's just me :)

Gilles says:
So... how about both options ?  Meeting... and a form on a website ?

Gilles says:
Cam: Nope.... just if you want to :-)

Pam says:
not another website!!!!

Cam says:
alright... cause I really hate writing evaluations

Antony says:
why not email?

Ted says:
I realize that Beth and that would seem to be the main problem with the evaluations

Host Beth says:
Gilles: I think a form sent via email would be better...

Theresa says:
Can trace that to the owner.

Cathy says:
That way they would remain between the SM and his crew.

Cathy says:
Not if sent to the CO first.

Gilles says:
Beth: Then we can hand out addresses of anonymous mail servers :-)

Theresa says:
Or have one of the crew gather the emails, correlate the comments and send it to the SM

Host Beth says:
::grins at Ted:: Not that I have ever had that problem with my SM...he knows exactly what I think ;)

Pam says:
No other ship needs to know what goes on your own unless you all agree to make it public.

Gilles says:
With 30+ ships in ACTD... it seems we need many options....   ::bangs head on desk::

Kooky says:
Maybe it could be something that could be downloaded from the ODN?

Antony says:
we don't need to figure all of this out now, do we?

Host Beth says:
If a CO cannot handle keeping things annonymous then that's a whole other issue....I think the CO should correlate the comments and pass it on to the SM.  That way it is only per ship and only the CO and SM know what everyone has said...

Host Beth says:
And of course the SM would not know who said what

Gilles says:
Figure it out ?  No Anthony... I threw the idea in the air to see if I hit anything :-)

Host Beth says:
Antony: This is just people throwing things out into the air...it may or may not happen :)

Antony says:
I say that because I'm sure there are other things that people want to discuss

Host Beth says:
But the consensus is that confidential SM evaluations are wanted....right?

Theresa says:
yes

Coot says:
Yes

Host Beth says:
You are correct Antony....and we'll go off to another one in just a bit... :)

Kooky says:
Yes

Antony says:
yes

Gilles says:
Ok... Antony....  what have you got?  :-)

Host Beth says:
::sighs:: Gilles: I was just about to ask him... ::hits her backspace, backspace, backspace::

Host Beth says:
:)

Antony says:
heh   I just wanted to know what the situation was with logs as a mandatory requirement in the Chat division

Coot says:
<w> Just Hit Gilles instead  : )

Ted says:
Yes

Gilles says:
LOL Coot

Host Beth says:
lol Coot :)

Kooky says:
You know we never got back to that topic ..

Kooky says:
LOL Coot

Gilles says:
Antony... so far log requirements are the same... with Station at logs one/month... ships  once/week

Pam says:
I like logs!!!!!

Coot says:
I think logs are the second most important things right behind showing up

Theresa says:
I love logs, too, but many wouldn't do them if not required.

Kooky says:
Even though my logs are not brilliant works of writing ... I still like to do them :)

Pam says:
You need them to develop your characters

Host Beth says:
Folks: Real quickly - I think we'll have the Open Forum again next week so if there are other things we will get to them...I rpomise...if not this week then next. Now back to logs :)

Cam says:
logs are the only times for char dev... except for OOM's that a bunch of folks don't have time 
for

Coot says:
::ditto::

Keely says:
I agree

Antony says:
right, that's not to say that I dislike them, but since it's been brough up before, I wondered if there's discussion about them

Antony says:
serious discussion among the staff, I mean

Gilles says:
Antony: Yup... the staff as a "Top Secret classified" newsgroup where we scream at each other... it's there

Gilles says:
<staff has a >

Pam says:
lol

Host Beth says:
Gilles: You forgot the thumping also... :)

Gilles says:
:-)

Antony says:
lol

Coot says:
The thing that seems to create the biggest problems is the lack of consistency from one division / SM / ship to another.  Some a very stringent, some don't care, and others are pure Evil  ::eyes no one in particular, except for Gilles that is::   <eg>

Coot says:
some <are>
Coot says:
::runs from the Evil Thwapping that's about to close in::
Host Beth says:
Well that goes back to the autonomy of the SM's on their ships...I think that it is up to the crew to find out what is required per ship.
Cathy says:
::has got to run::
Cathy says:
Night all!
Kooky says:
cya tomorrow Cathy!
Ted says:
Goodnight
Antony says:
goodnite
Cathy says:
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Gilles, Coot, Sandy!!!}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Pam says:
night Cathy
Gilles says:
{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Cathy }}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Coot says:
but doesn't that create Pandora's Box.... "Well, my old SM said one a month.  Now I'm being removed because you want once a week."   I don't know if we want to do that.
Host Beth says:
Night Cathy...thanks!
Coot says:
!!! Nite Cathy !!!
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Kooky says:
That couldn't happen Coot ... ACTD requirement for Chat is one per week for ships ...
Antony says:
I know that some people really enjoy doing them and put in a lot of effort while others write a sentence or two and call it a log
Gilles says:
Sandy....    but some SMs do not apply it...
Kooky says:
And if the SM isn't, for the lack of a better word, enforcing it, then they are breaking the rules too
Coot says:
I understand that, but I think we need an "all or nothing" policy.
Host Beth says:
Coot: that's the reality though.....some SM's are more lenient than others....letting people slip once in a while or turn in short logs...
Coot says:
short is better than none however
Coot says:
I love logs.  I've done a bundle this week, but only because my character is having major trauma....
Host Beth says:
On the Delphyne...you have to turn in one log a week...even if you miss that mission due to some reason or another you still have to write a log...there's been whining about it but it was never a real issue because they knew.  the few players that hated it left...
Kooky says:
Yeah ... his new name is "peggy" ... <GD&RLH>
Coot says:
I agree with that policy
Ted says:
I can't comment this week will be my first log submission
Theresa says:
Isn't that the rule on all ships?
Kooky says:
It's supposed to be
Pam says:
It is supposed to be Theresa
Theresa says:
thought so.
Theresa says:
It's enforced on the three I'm on.
Kooky says:
And on the two I'm on
Coot says:
How else will eveyone onboard know about the stuffed parrot you keep in your bunk and pretend to dance with after you tip a few back?
Cam says:
I'm only on 1...
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Kooky says:
LOL Coot :)
Kooky says:
Hiya Zach
zach says:
hi
Gilles says:
In general it is enforced... the ships that do not are exceptions... to my knowledge
Theresa says:
It's been very interesting seeing the different SM's and how they operate.
Host Beth says:
But you know something though that I firmly believe in....I think it is also the CO's responsability to help the SM enforce it.
Pam says:
I keep a log record and use it for player evaluations. If your log is late or missing, then I weigh that in my eval.
Cam says:
I have seen some ships that let folks get 3 behind and then send them in all at once consistently with few, if any, consequences
Coot says:
It still comes down to the SM.  Their ship, their decision.  Granted the CO has quite a bit of say, but these two players have paid their dues and should be allowed to conduct the ship as they see fit.
Keely says:
Beth: Yes.  By example as well as voicing it
Antony says:
that's how it works on Seleya - there's a log record sent out every month
Theresa says:
Some players may have extenuating circumstances that they don't want to discuss with anyone but the SM
Kooky says:
Same on the Scorpius ... the Command Crew is e-mailed an attendance and log report every month ... it also works with evals
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Host Beth says:
I've played on ships where the CO doesn't bother to get a log OR the MB out until an hour before mission....sometimes not even that....doesn't make the crew very inspired to write their own logs on time.
Pam says:
When I took over the Triton, I sent the crew a letter of my expections so there would be no question about what I expected.
Kooky says:
That's a good idea, Pam
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Theresa says:
Beth, that's been the problem I've seen more often than anything.
Pam says:
It seesm to work
Coot says:
been there done that Beth  ::looks to Gilles for recollection::
Pam says:
The crew is still alive
Host Beth says:
I don't think the CO should be the one to enforce it...that is the SM's job...but friendly nagging and intervention goes a long way to heading off a problem and it seems to go down easier sometimes from the CO than the SM...
Theresa says:
Not if the captain isn't being on time either.
Gilles says:
::nods at Coot::It happens.. unfortunately
Kooky says:
reminder e-mails seem to work as well ...
Coot says:
You need to lay down the groundrules whichever way the SM and CO see fit.  Then it becomes a matter of giving the slackers grief for not doing their logs.
Pam says:
I send reminder emails every week based on a song......amazingly it works too.
Coot says:
::REB::
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Theresa says:
I like that!  Musical nagging!
Pam says:
yep
Coot says:
like?
Kooky says:
hehe ... I hadn't thought of doing it that way :)
Pam says:
I take the words to a song and change them to fit with logs
Host Beth says:
Tell me Pam...I have a boring reminder email that I send
Coot says:
Karma Karma Karma-on and do you logs?
Pam says:
lol
Coot says:
<your>
Theresa says:
That's great
Theresa says:
<yo>
Pam says:
Like "The look of Love" I called it "The look of logs"
Antony says:
LOL
Host Beth says:
Hehe...I think I would purposely have my logs late just to get a reminder from you Pam :)
Coot says:
"Let it be, Let it be,  Let it be, Let it be.   Let it be an in-box full of logs"
Pam says:
or Oops you did it again!
Host Beth says:
lol
zach says:
being guilty of late logs (with circumstances) desides to bow out of this chat :)
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Host Beth says:
Zach: I admit too...there were times when I was late...and I had no control over it....but overall...I found that when I turn my log in...suddenly everyone else gets theirs in shiortly after :)
Host Beth says:
Whoops...too late...
Coot says:
heh.... running for the hills
Pam says:
::has to hope she doesn't run out of songs::
Keely says:
lol
Coot says:
just start doing re-runs
Pam says:
lol
Coot says:
oh TV Theme Songs!!!
Kooky says:
Just have one song for every player ... and use that one song all the time ... they'd soon get sick of hearing it!
Theresa says:
On the ship where we get the most reminders and very, very strong ones...most of the crew sends their logs in within three days of the mission and they're are long.
Host Beth says:
I still say I'd do it on purpose just to see what Pam comes up with that week ....those are too funny!
Pam says:
they are funny Beth
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Pam says:
I did "Sandy" from Grease this week.
Coot says:
::is guilty of the long log::  and enough supplementals to drown in.....
Kooky says:
I'm glad you're not my SM Pam ... I'd hate to get that song everyweek!
Pam says:
just one week Sandy
Host Beth says:
LOL Coot....my log this week was 89k
Pam says:
new one every week
Coot says:
oh, a short one I see.... : )
Host Beth says:
Hee
Theresa says:
I couldn't believe it either.  I thought you did that every week, Beth :)
Kooky says:
hee
Host Beth says:
Actually I do really long logs often for the Del....and for the Dublin whenever my character Mia gets stuck in something :)
Coot says:
I've never done anything quite that large, but pretty darn close
Kooky says:
I know I tread a fine line when it comes with logs ... but that's due to work commitments
Coot says:
like a barrel?
Theresa says:
Like just about anything!
Host Beth says:
A barrel... a console...a communications panel...a mummy...
Kooky says:
a mummy?
Theresa says:
A big stone door
Host Beth says:
She's been stuck in many things...just a tad bit clumsy...
Pam says:
she licks the fingers of mummies.......
Kooky says:
::chuckles::
Host Beth says:
Just to stick them back on when they break off ;)
Coot says:
My logs this week have been insane.... lost a leg.... our CNS needs rehab.... the bridge is in pieces.... again...... and the crew finally won its first battle..... busy week!!  : )
Gilles says:
Eeeek... it's quiet....
Kooky says:
ewww ...
Gilles says:
Oooo... it was me... I had to scroll down  ::sighs::
Host Beth says:
Woo hoo...Coot...sounds like fun :)
Kooky says:
And your OPS got promoted <VBG>
Coot says:
::tosses Gilles a coffee::
Pam says:
so.........back to topic.......SM Evals good........logs....good?
Gilles says:
Woo Hoo !!! Congrats Sandy !!
Coot says:
yes and yes
Kooky says:
Thnx Gilles :)
Host Beth says:
Yep Pam :)   Well it's that time folks....this was a really good chat..thank you very much for coming and participating.... :)  Open Forum again next week so think of what you want to say :)
Coot says:
Why is the sky blue?
Pam says:
::pulls Beth to the dark side::
Theresa says:
because
Host Beth says:
next week Coot... :)
Kooky says:
It's blue? I thought it was red ...
Coot says:
oh.... jumped the gun....
Gilles says:
THERE ARE FOUR BLUE LIGHTS !
Kooky says:
::covers her ears:: owww ...
Coot says:
maybe down under, but that's because you guys are upside down Sandy!!!
Pam says:
take your shades off Gilles
Kooky says:
LOL!
Gilles says:
:-)
Host Beth says:
::thwaps Pam:: get away from me!!  Kooky!! Help!! Pam's trying to suck me into the SM underworld!!
Kooky says:
::grabs Beth:: I got ya!
Theresa says:
bye y'all
Host Beth says:
::holds on for dear life:: thanks Kooky...you're a pal :)
Kooky says:
cya tomorrow Theresa :)
Ted says:
::throws Beth a rope::
Coot says:
::turns on the Neon Sign "Welcome to the Dark Side"::
Host Beth says:
See ya Sunday theresa :)
Theresa says:
yep
Pam says:
oooooooo next week..........How to oust the CO of a ship....
Kooky says:
::grins:: We can't let them win all the time can we?
Gilles says:
::drags Beth:: You will become one with the Dark Side...
Theresa says:
Good luck with the stubborn captain, Pam
Host Beth says:
::wraps the rope around her waist:: Thanks Ted
Pam says:
lol
Theresa says:
You'll have to have lots of lightning
Ted says:
::pulls on the rope::
Kooky says:
::helps Ted with the rope::
Coot says:
Just remember..... Some are born into Evilness, some achieve Evilness, and others have Evilness thrust upon them.... typically at the hands of a Super-Evil SM!!!
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Gilles says:
LOL Coot
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Pam says:
::shines up her tin hat::
Kooky says:
Hi Scott
Ted says:
I was evil before I got on the ship
Host Beth says:
::climbs hand over hand up the rope:: that's what YOU say Coot :)
Keely says:
Night all :)
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Kooky says:
Nite SY
Host Beth says:
But the Dark Side shall never get me....!!
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
heya Sandy
Kooky says:
::grabs Beth's hand::
Coot says:
::pours snail juice all over the rope::
Gilles says:
::grins:: They say all that Beth :-)
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
hello everyone
Gilles says:
Hya Mac !
Pam says:
Hi Scott
Host Beth says:
::wonders if any cadets will show up THIS time::
Host Beth says:
Hiya Mac :)
Gilles says:
::hugs Beth:: Never had one all year :-(
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
just passing through after my Command meeting
Kooky says:
Need any NPCs for training Beth?
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
heya Beth..LTNS
Host Beth says:
Gilles: You didn't?
Kooky says:
::becomes a cadet again so Gilles can have ONE this year::
Host Beth says:
Not certain Kooky...depends on how bright these are...first week...but maybe towards the end....definately next week and the week after :)
Gilles says:
Not a single one :-(
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
I don't even remember what its like to be a cadet
Kooky says:
cool ... be glad to help if you need it :)
Kooky says:
Scott: Neither do I ... it was a long time ago ...
Coot says:
A long time ago.... in a chat room far, far away.....
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
been nearly 4 years for me
Host Beth says:
Awwww...Gilles...at least I've had two or three classes this year....the last two didn't show up...
Kooky says:
3 and a half for me
Host Beth says:
Me too kooky :)
Kooky says:
LOL Coot :)
Coot says:
::feels like a toddler with his 2 years under the belt::
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
Sandy, wanna go to Macca's?
Kooky says:
No!
Host Beth says:
I just found out today that I have played 155 consecutive mission on the Delphyne without missing one...and 10 before that...that's a LOT of Mondays!
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
hehe
Kooky says:
Last mission I missed was for my step-daughter's wedding ...
Host Beth says:
Sy has played 130 missions striaght...
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
hehe, I missed around 3 Delphyne missions
Gilles says:
Eeeek !
Coot says:
wow..... that's 3 years running.... wtg Beth!
Host Beth says:
I missed one when I had to go out to sea...that's all :)
Pam says:
I lost count a long time ago
Kooky says:
I missed one cause I got times mixed up with Daylight Savings ...
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
I'm the forgotten Delphyne ex-crewman
Gilles says:
I've never missed the Ganymede since March 2000... Ummmm.. false... I've missed....  2
Pam says:
Never missed a log in more than 4 years
Coot says:
::missed several b/c he is poor and was working three jobs::
Ted says:
::looks at the ground, feels like the little kid on the block all of the sudden::
Gilles says:
Eeeek !!  Pam wins !!
Kooky says:
I missed one Pen mission cause my computer fried itself ...
Kooky says:
Ted: Don't worry ... :)
Host Beth says:
I'm going to work on getting statistics for ACTD...like who has the most consecutive missions for one character on one ship....which ship has the most missions...things like that..wouldn't that be cool :)
Coot says:
::can claim no missed logs in two+ years all on the Pen::
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
I miss at least 1 mission a month due to Grad Scholl and SPJ
Kooky says:
::can claim she has never missed a log in over 3 years of playing::
Host Beth says:
Pam: You haven't missed one mission on the Gryphon for FOUR years?!?  WOW!!  ::hands her the trophy:: I think we have a WINNER!!  :)
Pam says:
I missed one mission Beth.......I was kidnapped.
Coot says:
Log or mission?  :scratches the gray matter::
Kooky says:
ooooooooo ... New Sims Expansion pack available ...
Gilles says:
::smiles:: I'm tied with Sandy
Pam says:
::looks at Gilles::
Pam says:
never missed a log
Gilles says:
We started with missions.. then went to logs Coot
Kooky says:
I've missed a few missions ... but not many :)
Pam says:
I hate missing
Coot says:
missions?  ::whistles innocently::
Pam says:
so I don't
Pam says:
lol
Gilles says:
I've got perfect attendance as SM so far :-)
Coot says:
slacker
Pam says:
me too
Pam says:
lol
Host Beth says:
BTW: Ted had his first mission on Monday and did extremely well...got thrown into a firefight and kept up beautifully :)
Gilles says:
:-)
Coot says:
w00t!!
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Kooky says:
I got perfect attendance as an SM too ... I've never been an SM so I haven't had a mission to miss!@
Kooky says:
HIya Rob!
Host Beth says:
LOL Kooky!!
Rob says:
Hiya Sandy :)
Pam says:
Hi Rob
Host Beth says:
Hi Rob :)
Rob says:
 hi Pam
Rob says:
Beth :-)
CO_McPherson-Quest says:
ok, time for me to get to bed....night everyone
Kooky says:
Nite Scott
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Pam says:
night Scott
Coot says:
I get to put on the SM hat as of the 29th!!  I get to brutalize Abertura Station!!!
Host Beth says:
Night Mac....
Kooky says:
Good luck with that Coot :)
Host Beth says:
For good or for SMiT?
Coot says:
SMiT... I want to be a back-up if needed.... real deal eventually
Rob says:
I started my second chapter in ACTD career, last night
Kooky says:
Cool ... got your second char worked out?
Host Beth says:
Good luck Coot :)
Rob says:
yup, CMO on the Don Johnson
Coot says:
thx
Host Beth says:
You'll do good :)
Kooky says:
Excellent!
Antony says:
I just started PBeM training
Kooky says:
I prefer chat to PBeM or Newsfleet ... I couldn't do missions by e-mail or post
Pam says:
same here Sandy
Rob says:
i dont know if i could do that either.  if i have too much time to think, i end up flopping
Host Beth says:
Yeah I like the face to face real time conversation...
Kooky says:
me too Rob!
Antony says:
it's just a *lot* of writing... I'm not yet sure how the missions fit together
Host Beth says:
I went through the training for PBeM but dropped out the last week...just wasn't my 'thing'
Kooky says:
For me it's the writing ... I'm just not creative enough to keep a story-line going by e-mail
Ted says:
Yes I'll take live gaming anytime
Antony says:
I'd prefer Newsgroups to Email, but the next training session doesn't start till May
Coot says:
I am too spontaneous not to be able to chat
Gilles says:
::did the same as Beth::
Gilles says:
::grins:: Live missions in PERSON are a hoot as well
Kooky says:
I'd love to do that one day ...
Gilles says:
I gotta get Bob to bring the last Trailblazer to the Convention....
Rob says:
::wishes he could go to the convention, but sadly cannot::
Host Beth says:
Well folks...a cadet arived...a REAL live cadet is on the training room right now!!   Better run and staple her to the deck before she gets away :)
Pam says:
nooooooo gilles
Gilles says:
::chuckles::
Host Gilles says:
LOL
Kooky says:
LOL ...
Rob says:
oh, training tonight?
Host Beth says:
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Kooky says:
::wishes she could go to the conv too ... but it's a LONG way to swim from Australia::
Ted says:
Goodnight Beth, I going to do research see if I can save our ship
Host Gilles says:
I'm going to bed.... I'm in the wrong timezone for Beth's training
Pam says:
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Host Gilles says:
:-)
Kooky says:
Nite Beth
Pam says:
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