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Topic:  Are What is your favorite Star Trek movie?  What is your favorite scene?  

Stardate 10303.07

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Host Beth says:
Topic today is: What is your favorite Star Trek movie?  What is your favorite scene?  And they don't have to be connected. :)

Host Beth says:
Who wants to take it away?

Chancellor_Topper says:
Favorite Movie is ST: IV Favorite Scene is "What does god need with a starship?"

Jane says:
Heee..

Host Beth says:
Hehe....yeah I do like that one :)

Jane says:
that is good.  Some of the funniest scenes ever were in that movie...

Antony says:
I'd like to say mine is also IV, but there's something about the TNG films...

Jane says:
The discussion about swearing when they're riding along in the truck...

Kooky says:
Fav Movie ... ST IV or STVI ... fav scene ... I don't know

Jane says:
The one where Spock is dying and Kirk is on the other side of the glass.... ST II maybe?

Chancellor_Topper says:
Anything with Spock trying to use the "colorful metaphors"

Dawn says:
My fave movie is The Voyage Home.    Fave Scene is where Chekov is coming to after Bones revived him and Kirk asked him his Name and Rank and he deliriously said  Chekov, Pavel, rank..  Admiral :)

Jane says:
That's the one Topper!

Jane says:
LOL Dawn

Jane says:
Him asking for the nuclear wessels

Host Beth says:
LOL

Dawn says:
that too

Kooky says:
I thought some of the funniest scenes were in Insurrection ...

Chancellor_Topper says:
LOL...that was agood one...although I think it's lost on youngsters

Antony says:
The Picard mambo scene was gold!

Kooky says:
yeah

Host Beth says:
I'm kindof partial to Data singing his little 'Lifeform' song :)

Dawn says:
Or when Bones and Scotty was giving the guy the formula for transparent aluminum and Scotty was TALKING to the computer :)

Jane says:
Like what Sandy?  Can you describe one?

Kooky says:
I like that too!

Jane says:
LOL Dawn!!!!

Kooky says:
Data's reaction when Cmdr Riker shaved off his beard was a classic!

Jane says:
LOL Sandy

Scotty says:
Smooth as an androids bottom

Host Beth says:
Dawn: I did like it when Scotty picked up the mouse to speak into it :)

Kooky says:
That's the one!

Scotty says:
:)

Dawn says:
Beth:  Yeah :)

Kooky says:
I also liked the scene at the end of Insurrection when Data and the boy were playing ...

Chancellor_Topper says:
Data flipping Ryker in the nose

Antony says:
I thought that was kinda corny...

Dawn says:
Another part form same movie for me is  when Spock was in with the whales :)

Scotty says:
yeah

Kooky says:
yup

Chancellor_Topper says:
I laughed so hard when I first saw that I nearly wet my pants

Kooky says:
Oh yes!

Host Beth says:
How about Worf with his: "Definately feeling agressive tendencies"

Jane says:
ROFL

Scotty says:
Kooky: you like the part between Crusher and Troi and then Data and Worf

Kooky says:
I liked his "zit"

Kooky says:
Definitely!

Scotty says:
thats good

Scotty says:
and have you noticed...

Kooky says:
::chuckles::

Jane says:
ROFLMAO

Cathy says:
LOL

Jane says:
too funny  :)

Chancellor_Topper says:
Data asking Worf if he has noticed his breasts have firmed up?

Host Beth says:
LOL

Kooky says:
yup!

Cathy says:
<G>

Kooky says:
What about the kid asking Picard if Data would rust!

Jane says:
LOL

Host Beth says:
For those that just came in: We're discussing favorite ST movie and scene...not necessarily connected...

Jane says:
I think I'm going to go watch Insurrection as soon as we are done here.  It's not as clear in my mind as Voyage Home...

Chancellor_Topper says:
Ryker telling Data that his new shave is smooth as an adroids behind and Data having to check for himself.

Kooky says:
hee ... that's the one I mentioned earlier ...

Host Beth says:
So a lot of people seem to like IV the best.....why?

Jane says:
Its so funny...

Dawn says:
I dunno, I just do

Kooky says:
I liked the "fish out of water" scenario when they went back in the past ..

Jane says:
and it took these icons that we all love... spock and kirk, and put them in our own time.

Ruth says:
I like the scene in ST:V where Chekov and Sulu are blowing into the communicator, saying that there's a blizzard. Uhura replies that the weather report says it's sunny. lol

Kooky says:
Where they all stood round "like first year cadets" as Kirk said ...

Jane says:
LOL

Kooky says:
What about when Scotty hit his head after saying he knew the ship like the back of his hand?

Jane says:
LOL

Host Beth says:
:)

Ruth says:
one of the few good scenes. lol. 

Dawn says:
and it's also the fact that I have a picture of myself with George Takei, and he is wearing an outfit like he wore in The Voyage Home:)

Ruth says:
that was good one Sandy

Host Beth says:
Very cool Dawn :)

Dawn says:
It was COOL  Sulu is my all time fave char

Kooky says:
But, in some ways, I liked them all ... It's very hard to really pick a favourite

Host Beth says:
What about the worst scene and/or movie?

Jane says:
The first one

Jane says:
was the worst.

Kooky says:
I liked the first one ...

Antony says:
I really disliked V

Host Beth says:
Why? To all of the above?

Kooky says:
But if I had to pick .... I would say V

Dawn says:
I didn't care for the scene in the first one where Spock was flying in the domain of V'gr

Jane says:
The first one was all about showing off special effects.  Very little character development other than it was wonderful to see them all again.

Dawn says:
that seemed to drag on forever

Antony says:
with the exception of a few scenes (like the camping, etc), V was just poorly done

Cathy says:
I hated the whole V'ger thing.

Antony says:
I thought that was a very intriguing concept... but it did stretch out a lont

Antony says:
<lot>

Ruth says:
well it's sort of understandable going from tv to a movie format, sort of like a warm up but still the movie was pretty good.

Cathy says:
Overall, I liked the movie, just didn't like the concept of V'ger, seemed to farfetched.

Host Beth says:
How many of you saw the first one when it came out in theaters?

Jane says:
It was a wonderful movie Ruth.  They've just gotten better from there.

Dawn says:
I did with my parents and brother

Jane says:
::raises her hand::

Cathy says:
I did.

Host Beth says:
::is wondering if she is showing her age::

Cathy says:
What year was that?

Jane says:
You and me both Beth.

Kooky says:
I saw it once in theatre ... but many times on video :)

Host Beth says:
Around 1980 or so wasn't it?

Antony says:
1978ish, I think

Dawn says:
I have been a fan of Star Trek for as long as I can remember.  My father really liked Star Trek

Kooky says:
1978

Host Beth says:
That early?  Wow...

Cathy says:
::nods:: I thought so. I dragged my sister.

Kooky says:
I remember ST TOS when it was on TV originally ... ::is really showing her age now::

Jane says:
Me too Sandy.

Cathy says:
She had just gotten her driver's liscense and I needed a ride.

Dawn says:
Yup.  So you all have my dad to thank for my interest in Star Trek and the whole SciFi genre

Jane says:
Spock was my role model in my formative years.

Kooky says:
I liked McCoy

Jane says:
I had a crush on Chekhov for a while there.  He looked like Davey Jones.

Kooky says:
LOL .... I've MET Davy Jones :)

Jane says:
Sandy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jane says:
You lucky woman!!!!!!!!!

Cathy says:
Ooh...I loved him!!!!

Kooky says:
He's really nice ....

Cathy says:
Although, he was no David Cassidy.

Jane says:
oh please...

Jane says:
Beth!  We are off topic!

Kooky says:
LOL!

Jane says:
Save me from thinking about David Cassidy!

Host Beth says:
Yes we are :)

Scotty says:
doesnt that always happen though

Host Beth says:
The Davy Jones vs David Cassidy and Maryanne vs Ginger debates are on the next server over... ;)

Cathy says:
Anyway, I always liked Kirk the best.

Jane says:
Didn't last week.  That was an amazing conversation.

Jane says:
LOL

Dawn says:
:)

Scotty says:
ook, didtn catch that one then

Host Beth says:
How about the most dramatic scene from the movies?

Jane says:
When Spoke dies behind the glass....

Kooky says:
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( SY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Jane says:
Kirk is right there on the other side.

Kooky says:
Ditto Jane!

Dawn says:
Yeah when Spock dies

Jane says:
They press their hands together....

Jane says:
and quote Dickens

Jane says:
spock that is

Sy says:
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Host Beth says:
Anyone else?  Sy and KevNash...we're now discussing the most dramatic scene in the movies...

Cathy says:
I agree.

Kooky says:
Speaking of fav scenes ... I liked the one with McCoy in the bar in ST III ...

Jane says:
A five kleenex scene

Jane says:
I don't remember it Sandy.  ::pouts::

Cathy says:
Very heartbreaking.

Kooky says:
I believe there's a 6-kleenex scene in Nemesis ...

Antony says:
aside from that,  there's the scene in FC where Picard "breaks his little ships"

Cathy says:
::hasn't seen it yet::

Kooky says:
::hasn't seen it either ... but Trish spilled the beans!::

Sy says:
Antony: I like that one too

Antony says:
"The line must be drawn here!  Here, and no further!"

Ruth says:
"Captain Ahab has to go hunt his whale."

Jane says:
That was very dramatic

KevNash says:
Mine would have to be the end scene of Trek 2. Even though there was a death, to quote Spock there are always possibilities.

Kooky says:
Jane:  It's the one where he's trying to get a ride to the Mutara sector ...

Kooky says:
Jane:  And McCoy tries to use the Vulcan Nerve Pinch on the Starfleet Intelligence guy

Jane says:
It's a blur to me Sandy.  I'll have to watch that one this weekend too.  :)

Kooky says:
::thinks she's organised Jane's viewing for the weekend now::

Host Beth says:
::pictures Jane watching all ten in a row::

Sy says:
hehe

Jane says:
I hope I don't space out on my missions tomorrow.....

Kooky says:
you and me both, Jane

Host Beth says:
How about the best FX scene?

KevNash says:
That was a moving scene and allowed the mysticism to grow.

Kooky says:
Definitely the whales

Kooky says:
When Spock is swimming with them ... they look so real!

Sy says:
Nemesis by far

Kooky says:
I haven't seen Nemesis so I can't comment on that one

Host Beth says:
For the time it was made...the whales were pretty state of the art...

Kooky says:
exactly

Host Beth says:
Okay...since a lot haven't seen Nemesis we'll exclude that from the conversation tonight :)

Kooky says:
I've seen humpback whales in real life ... I couldn't believe how close they got to them looking real :)

Antony says:
seeing the Phoenix go to warp was great - even if it wasn't very FX heavy

Scotty says:
ive seen it!

Host Beth says:
I would have to say that for me..the most dramatic and the best FX is when the saucer crashed....

Scotty says:
it was good

Jane says:
Right Beth!

Kooky says:
yeah that was good too

Jane says:
That was very cool...

KevNash says:
I also like Star Trek 2 because it has spawned a prequel that goes over Kahn's life.

Antony says:
yeah, that too!

Jane says:
It gave a very good perspective on just how big that ship was.

Sy says:
yeah that was a good one Beth

Host Beth says:
That one shot when it looks back at the HUGE swath it plowed into the landscape...awesome...

Jane says:
::nods::

Host Beth says:
True Jane...you never realized just how big the saucer was...

Host Beth says:
How about...worst scene?

Jane says:
hummm... that's a tough one....

Antony says:
worst FX scene?

Jane says:
Anything with Wesley in it.

Host Beth says:
No....worst regular scene...

Antony says:
ah

Kooky says:
Wesley wasn't in the movies,  Jane!

Sy says:
Jane: :P

Jane says:
::thanks the goddess for that::

KevNash says:
When Spock had the chance to take out Sybok and didn't. That was weak.

Jane says:
Oh yeah... they actually cut his scenes from Nemesis I hear.

Host Beth says:
Shhhhh....no Nemesis ;)

Kooky says:
Worst scene is hard ...

Antony says:
how about ST V's deck snafu?

Jane says:
deck snafu?

Kooky says:
snafu?

Jane says:
explain

Host Beth says:
There are many of them that spring to my mind and they all have Shatner in them...

Host Beth says:
<g>

Antony says:
yeah, when they rocket through Deck 35, Deck 68, Deck 40

Jane says:
LOL

Jane says:
I never noticed that.

Host Beth says:
I never noticed that Antony

Antony says:
I may not have the numbers correct, but it's very much like that

Antony says:
I had to rewind and watch it in slow motion to double check  lol

Sy says:
anything from number #9 Movie... I can't even remember the name of that one

Host Beth says:
I hate the scene where Kirk talks about not dying alone...both in the ship and on the planet...he's so smug about that...

KevNash says:
Another scene is in the search for spock. When the tree uproots and you see klingons who haven't gotten to Spock, Saavik and David.

Ruth says:
Insurrection

Sy says:
Yeah that one

Host Beth says:
I take it that you didn't like Insurrection, Sy?

Sy says:
It just wasn't memeriable(sp)... I know I have watched it at least 2 and can believe remember what it is about

Host Beth says:
Hehe...

Sy says:
<can't>

Kooky says:
<memorable>

Host Beth says:
All right...what about worst FX scene?

Jane says:
hummm....

Sy says:
well that whole post was full of mistakes ;)

KevNash says:
I also didn't like the portrayl of Zeframe Cochrane in First Contact. Cromwell is a good actor, but the Cochrane from the series was a pure scientist.

Antony says:
good point

Jane says:
I didn't realize Cochrane was portrayed in the series first

Kooky says:
yup ... the episode with the Companion ... :)

KevNash says:
In the Companion

Host Beth says:
Refresh my meomery please...

Antony says:
Maybe the Cochrane seen in TOS was reformed?  :)

Host Beth says:
What was the Companion about?

Kooky says:
I can't remember the name of the ep ... but there was a TOS ep where Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Nancy Hedford were diverted by the Companion to give Cochrane company

Kooky says:
The Companion was a gaseous life-form that saved Cochrane and fell in love with him ... it rejuvinated him ... made him young agin

Kooky says:
<again ... see I can't speel either>

Host Beth says:
Okay...I'm starting to remember...

KevNash says:
The shuttle was diverted to a planet with an energy being and it took over a sick Commisioner Hedford. She was dying of a rare illness.

Kooky says:
correct

Sy says:
Well I could see how his FC could have been life altering for him

Kooky says:
The Companion and Commissioner Hedford merged and became one being

KevNash says:
correct.

KevNash says:
"We are the Companion."

Sy says:
after all it was life-altering for the planet

Host Beth says:
An one else for worst scene?

Kooky says:
And she couldn't leave the planet so Cochrane decided to stay with her

Jane says:
wow... did you guys ever tell that story nicely....

Host Beth says:
Yes they did :)

Host Beth says:
How about best plot for a movie?

Jane says:
Voyage Home

Sy says:
I think FC

Antony says:
I second that

Jane says:
First Contact.. yeah... that was good too.  :)

Kooky says:
I liked the plot for Undiscovered Country ... all those who were enemies banding together ....

Antony says:
However, VI was good too

KevNash says:
I liked both 3 and 4.

Host Beth says:
And of course you knew this was coming: How about worst plot?

Kooky says:
Definitely V

KevNash says:
Save your crewmate then save the hub of the Federation.

Sy says:
Insurrection

KevNash says:
5 was weak.

Kooky says:
It sure was

Antony says:
what was wrong with Insurrection?

Ruth says:
V

Host Beth says:
Antony: She already explained it earlier :)

Sy says:
What was the plot on Insurrection?

Kooky says:
The Son'a getting revenge ...

Host Beth says:
The fountain of Youth

Antony says:
Ah, must've tuned out :-/

Kooky says:
And the fountain of youth ... that works too :)

Host Beth says:
:)

KevNash says:
Fountain of Youth and a Search for God. Those plots were grasping for something and missed.

Kooky says:
I just thought of another funny scene ... I liked the one in Insurrection with Picard at the reception .. that silly head-dress he wore cracked me up!

Kooky says:
Hey Phil

Phil says:
hi

Host Beth says:
How about best MOVIE villian....not TV show villian...

Kooky says:
Khan!

Host Beth says:
Hi Phil..

Sy says:
::always liked the "Mr. Tricorder" scence::

Phil says:
hi

Kooky says:
hehe

KevNash says:
Kahn and Soran

Host Beth says:
No movie villian.....Khan was TV

KevNash says:
Khan even

Kooky says:
Khan was a movie villian too!

Host Beth says:
well started TV

Phil says:
Borg Queen

KevNash says:
Trek 2 was Khan

Jane says:
But Khan was the best ever!

Sy says:
Borg Queen

Host Beth says:
Only movie....villian...

KevNash says:
Soran

Phil says:
Khan was insane though...

Jane says:
Borg Queen

Antony says:
in that case, Soran was all right

Ruth says:
hmm hard to decide, botht he borg queen and Khan were good.

Kooky says:
Soran then ...

KevNash says:
Borg queen was TV also in Voyager.

Jane says:
Good point.

Jane says:
Soran then.

Phil says:
she was movie first

Host Beth says:
But she was introduced in the movies....

Antony says:
Different actress... does that count?

KevNash says:
true

Kooky says:
Yeah ... but you said "movie only" <GD&RLH>

Host Beth says:
:P

KevNash says:
I liked Kruge too.

Kooky says:
Kruge was the other one I was thinking of, too

Kooky says:
And General Chang

Antony says:
Sorry, but I just couldn't see Christopher Lloyd as a Klingon

Phil says:
They were good

Phil says:
O_o

Antony says:
Chang, on the other hand...

KevNash says:
Or John Laroquette. LOL

Host Beth says:
Oh I embarrassed myself with that one about Lloyd being a klingon...:)

Host Beth says:
I couldn't place the voice until it hit me and I hollered out in the theater... "It's Jim!!"

KevNash says:
So was Dan off of Night Court.

Dawn says:
LOL  I was just thinking about John Larroquette as Maltz :)

Phil says:
^_^0

Jane says:
LOL Beth

Kooky says:
Not to mention the actor who played Odo (can't spell his name) ... he was Colonel West ...

Phil says:
Rene Auberjonis(spell>)

Kooky says:
That's him!

KevNash says:
Rene Aberjonouis I think.

Antony says:
Auberjonois?

Jane says:
Where is Gilles when we need him....

Kooky says:
I asked that earlier, Jane!

KevNash says:
speeling LOL

Host Beth says:
I notice that they tend to use the same actors for many roles...Tim Russ was a human in one of the movies...

Phil says:
he was in The Rock methinks...

Dawn says:
The guy who played Odo was in a show called "Benson" as Clayton Endicott III

Kooky says:
Yeah ... in Generations

Jane says:
and a human in TNG

Kooky says:
John Laroquette was in that as well !

KevNash says:
Worf was klingon in 6.

Jane says:
Yes Kevin

Kooky says:
No, sorry, he was in Night Court ...

Antony says:
he played his own uncle

Host Beth says:
But he was playing his grandfather...

Kooky says:
And his name was "Worf" too ... did anyone notice that?

Phil says:
Tom Paris' actor(forget the name) was the Nova squad leader in TNG

Antony says:
or grandfather... whatever :)

Jane says:
That woman who played worf's mate... alexanders mother... she shows up a lot

Jane says:
oops.... back to the movies...

Dawn says:
::trying to stifle a yawn::

KevNash says:
Mark Lenard was Sarek and the Klingon Commander in 1 and the Romulan Commander in Ballance of Terror.

Host Beth says:
What plot would you like to see for the next movie?

Jane says:
DS9 cast

Kooky says:
now that is hard ...

KevNash says:
DS9's crew returning.

Antony says:
I'm totally undecided on that... just not Voyager's crew :)

Kooky says:
Why not Voyager's crew?

Jane says:
No... Voyager's crew still seem annoying.

Jane says:
We need more distance from them for a while yet.

Antony says:
yeah, what Jane said :)

KevNash says:
I would like to see Jadzia come back.

Dawn says:
There is ONE thing I would like to know from Voyager and that is what did Tom and B'Lanna name their daughter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kooky says:
That might be a bit hard as she's dead ...

Sy says:
Yeah I always liked that chacter

Jane says:
I'd love to see Sisko

Antony says:
maybe the DS9 Relaunch would be interesting

Jane says:
Stick em on a nice new ship...

Jane says:
and send them off in the defence of Bajor

Ruth says:
she could come back as a prophet, though.

Phil says:
DS9 had a terrible ending.

KevNash says:
? Was Cassidy pregnant at the end of DS9?

Sy says:
What about a whole new crew?

Jane says:
ack!

Jane says:
No way!

Phil says:
I think so

Ruth says:
yes, she was, Kev.

Host Beth says:
Well we seem to be out of time tonight folks....any topics that ya'll want to discuss?

Kooky says:
How about something from the Romulan Wars ... ::after Enterprise and before TOS::

KevNash says:
Thought so. I'm reading the Mission Gamma series of books, just verifying a point.

Jane says:
I'd like to go back to logs some time Beth

Host Beth says:
We will.....don't worry... :)  That topic could fill a few weeks worth ;)

Jane says:
Yeah... maybe focus on one or two of the themes that came from it.

Jane says:
This was a riot

Kooky says:
judging by last week's reaction I'd say it will, that's for sure :)

Jane says:
I was laughing so hard at the beginning I couldn't type

Phil says:
?

Host Beth says:
Anything else?  Anything you want to discuss about ACTD?  The shows?  Sci-fi in general?

Jane says:
This conversation shifted to the series several times.

Dawn says:
my mind is a total blank

Kooky says:
Star Trek vs Star Wars?  <j/k>

Dawn says:
at the moment

Antony says:
Kirk vs Picard    :: ducks ::

Phil says:
Save Odyssey 5!

Host Beth says:
That's okay if it shifted...we don't need to stay strictly on topic...just sort of in the general vicinity ;)

Sy says:
eewww that is just down right cruel Kooky ;)

Jane says:
Captains... yeah....

KevNash says:
Wishes that the Force was allowed in ST. lol j/k

Kooky says:
hee Sy :)

Host Beth says:
Haven't I done a Best captain Chat?

Sy says:
yep

Jane says:
Maybe... I just started attending last week.

Jane says:
:)

KevNash says:
That was the first one I caught.

Host Beth says:
Glad you started Jane...

Jane says:
Me too Beth!

Kooky says:
I think I missed that one ...

Dawn says:
well, gtg early day tmw, if I think of something, I'll email it

Host Beth says:
Well my email is: trekkie@direcway.com if you want to send me ideas....this is supposed to be what you guys want to talk about :)

Host Beth says:
Night everyone and thank you for coming...it was a good chat :)