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Topic: Who was the best Star Trek villain?

Stardate 10211.08

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Host Trish says:
Good evening everyone!

Host Trish says:
Tonight's chat will be, Who is your favorite ST villain and why.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
dukat is the best

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he was the most 3 dimensional villian

Host Trish says:
What do you mean by that Latan

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
well he was a complicated character

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the way he thought the bajorans should of liked him was interesting

Host Trish says:
do you think that was ego, or a ploy?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
ego

Host Trish says:
Tonight's chat will be, Who is your favorite ST villian and why.

Tach says:
Neither, just a case of he had a different world view, for lack of a better term.

Host Trish says:
Tonight's chat will be, Who is your favorite ST villian and why.

Host Trish says:
any other opinions on Dukat?

Heather_Llewellyn says:
I think Dukat had a better chance to show his complexity since he was shown so frequently in DS9

Gilles says:
First choice   KHAN !!!    So much passion put in by Ricardo Montleban in that character

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yes khan was great

Host Trish says:
::thwaps Gilles:: wait !  hehehe

Tach says:
He thought that being less evil than other regents would have been, the people should have seen that and loved him.

Host Trish says:
anyone vote for delusions of grandeur for Dukat? ::giggles::

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah... I loved Khan and Ricardo es muy macho (always wanted to say that since that SNL skit)

Gilles says:
Dukat was the perfect reoccuring bad guy

Heather_Llewellyn says:
::raises hand on christ complex for dukat::

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
::raises hand::

Tach says:
Is it a delusion?  He saw himself as the chosen one of the Pah Wraiths, and he was.

Gilles says:
His delusions of grandeur were almost as good as mine <VBEG>

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
::tries punching chads like a florida voter and screws up::

Host Trish says:
I think everyone has a good description of him... he did play all those well

Gilles says:
::plots to take over ACTD::

Chancellor_Topper says:
Part of what made Dukat good was that sometimes he was a good guy

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yes he was a patriot

Host Trish says:
but what made him such a good villian?

Tach says:
You could almost identify with some of his ideas, which is both good and bad.  You saw what he wanted, even if you didn't agree with how he went after it.

Host Trish says:
I like that Steve...

Host Trish says:
I think he did well because you never knew what to expect from him.

Tach says:
Plus, part of the recurring factor, he played off of Sisko very well.

Host Trish says:
all right, several of you have mentioned Khan... so let's hear what you think about him. <G>

Heather_Llewellyn says:
I was blessed to see Ricardo and Walter talk about their villian characters (Khan and Bester) and they both said that what made them great was that deep down they did not see themselves as bad guys... just motivated to extremes... LOL

Tach says:
One of several villans designed to make us question the rate of technological advancement.

Gilles says:
Ummm... patriot was more the guy that ran the Cardassian empire... Damar.... who revolted and went after the Dominion

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
and dukat

Gilles says:
Motivated EXTREAMS ??   LOL  I love it

Host Trish says:
Do you think the younger Khan was better than the one in the movie?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
no

Kooky says:
Same person

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
older khan better actor

Kooky says:
Kyle:  The same actor played both

Heather_Llewellyn says:
nah... I mean... I loved the plastic chest <G>

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
i know

Gilles says:
More Passion for the older one

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yes

Host Trish says:
yes I know that, but I mean which one, younger or older seems the most villianous?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
older on

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the battle between kirk and khan was like a chess game

Tach says:
But the older one had a different history (or more developed one).  He wanted nothing more than vengeance.

Chancellor_Topper says:
the older Khan had been driven mad

Chancellor_Topper says:
He no longer seemd to care for conquest, only revenge

Host Trish says:
How would you compare Khan and Dukat?

Heather_Llewellyn says:
Ricardo said he only had a few days to prepare... and he was doing Fantasy Island at the time too... so the first few days before shooting he was Roarke doing Khan... LOL then he got the tapes from TOS and remembered more of what motivated the character

Gilles says:
Both were quite insane at one point

Host Trish says:
heheheTrish!

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
dukat was a better survivor

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he kept espcaing

Host Trish says:
agreed Latan

Tach says:
One thing that also makes Khan less evil, you can almost feel sorry for him.  He was bred to lead the world, and then banished because of that.  In a way, he was a persecuted minority.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
dukat almost destroyed the universe

Gilles says:
LOL Like a good villan... he escaped and escaped and escaped  LOL

Host Trish says:
yup <G>

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
and he slept with the bajoran pope

Host Trish says:
I preferred the younger Khan...

Tach says:
Destroy the universe or remold it into what he wanted?

Heather_Llewellyn says:
LOL Brett wanted me to put in a vote for Moriarty... I honestly don't know why he chose him though

Host Trish says:
from TNG?

Heather_Llewellyn says:
LOL La'tan

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah from TNG

Gilles says:
Ah.... the hologram who wanted to be alive

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yes

Host Trish says:
those were good episodes

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yeah

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he made data look like an idiot

Host Trish says:
I love Sherlock Holmes and the idea of Moriarty being alive intriqued me

Gilles says:
The doctor should be trying to release Moriaty right about now   :-)

Heather_Llewellyn says:
LOL

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
they had to pay royaolties for the sherlock homes episodes

Host Trish says:
I bet they did!

Host Trish says:
ok, what other villian do we have tonight?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
well the borg use to be good

Heather_Llewellyn says:
what about Q ?

Tach says:
Borg (Pre First Contact)

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
till they were ruined by voyager

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the reason borg were good was they were a force of nature

Tach says:
No, First Contact killed them, Voyager just ran with it.

Host Trish says:
I think they both qualify as villians...

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
you couldn't stop them

Chancellor_Topper says:
I loved Q because to me he was the perfect example of too much power in the hands of a child.

Gilles says:
Q qualified as a villan then became a pest :-)

Heather_Llewellyn says:
voyager or the borg? ;)

Host Trish says:
Q and Borg

Tach says:
No, force of technology.  What made them good was they were alien.

CJ-Tala says:
The female changeling was by far one the best...she manipulated Odo so well for her own uses.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
can rick berman and branan braga be a villian

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the way they ruined star trek

Host Trish says:
Chris, I like her as well... she gave the impression of no feelings

Heather_Llewellyn says:
Oooh yeah the female changling was good

Host Trish says:
reminded me of the Nazi's... only her race deserved to live and rule

Tach says:
She had feelings, just not for others.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
well i thought gowron was a good villian

Tach says:
Cardassians were more Fascist I think.  Loyalty to the State is all important, imperialism, racism, etc.

Host Trish says:
hehehe, you loved to hate Gowron!

Tach says:
Well, more Nazi than Fascist.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the way they made him willing to sacrfice the empire to help himself politcally

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
trying to get rid of his best general

CJ-Tala says:
Steve: Yes, but the Dominion ideal was to live and die for the Founders (the govt/state).

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
sounds kinda like a stalin tactic

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
gowron

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
even on tng i didn't like gowron

Host Trish says:
Chris, don't you think the Cardassians would have turned on the founders later if they could?

CJ-Tala says:
Of course...

Gilles says:
::agrees with Chris::

Tach says:
Yeah, but there are things missing from the Founders to be Fascist, mostly the pomp and circumstance.  No one knew who the Founders were, at least at first.  Don't mind me, I'm just getting too far into the definitions.

CJ-Tala says:
Just the type of people they were. As a whole (stereotypically) they thought highly of themselves and their own control and their own government. They wanted to be in control, the Dominion was just a means of getting it.

Host Trish says:
what about the Jem Hadar?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
jem hadar were just mindless thugs

Gilles says:
Predictable... Victory is life !!!

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
lemmings

Host Trish says:
Did anyone ever feel sorry for them?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
no

Chancellor_Topper says:
Sela was pretty good too. I thought that character had a lot of potential.

CJ-Tala says:
As a villan? Not really, a real villan has to have a purpose, cunning...

CJ-Tala says:
Yes.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
they were so cliched

Tach says:
Vorta were worse, they were slippery almost.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
weyoun was a great villian

Host Trish says:
did they seem like the SS in a way?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
sorta but dumber

CJ-Tala says:
I felt sorry for them. Thousands of years, they were basically drug addicts, and genetically altered to be slaves. At one point, they were an independant race, just like the Vorta.

Tach says:
But the evil of both would come back to the Founders.

Gilles says:
There was one episode.... with Worf battleing JemHadar after Jem Hadar.... that was an interesting look into them

Gilles says:
When Worf was a prisonner with Martok

Host Trish says:
::nods::

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
weyoun what does everyone think of him

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he was just so well acted

Host Trish says:
yes good one, what about Weyoun?

CJ-Tala says:
Unlike the Cardassians, they were so dependant, that they couldn't rise up.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the acting was great

Gilles says:
::breaks Weyoun's neck::    He then comes back....::sighs::

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
and he had a lot of humor

CJ-Tala says:
He was great...one of the best, along side Q, Khan...

Kooky says:
Weyoun was cunning ...

Tach says:
His evil comes from the Founders, though.  He was just "following orders" so to speak.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
weyoun was annoying

CJ-Tala says:
Yes, but he had a lot of say in what he did...

CJ-Tala says:
He was annoying, which made him good. He got under your skin.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yes thats what i am thinking

Kooky says:
He was dangerously pleasant ...

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
thats what made him great

Pam says:
::sounds familiar::

Host Trish says:
Do you think he had a conscious?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he could seem like a friendly guy if you didn't know about the dominion

Kooky says:
Not in the least

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
well one of the weyoun clones did

CJ-Tala says:
That was shown by the defective Weyoun. Normally - no. But he had the potentioal.

Tach says:
Yes, but based on a different way of thinking.  To him the Founders were gods, so what they wanted was good.

Host Trish says:
Did you ever get the idea he enjoyed what he did?

Kooky says:
Now you're talking about eps I haven't seen yet ...

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
well i thought that the admiral that pulled the coup was a good villian

CJ-Tala says:
Not as much enjoyed, as much impassive.

CJ-Tala says:
If he did it, okay, if he didn't - oh well, no loss.

Host Trish says:
explain that Chris

Host Trish says:
thanks

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
who was that admiral who pulled the coup

Host Trish says:
all right, who is another villian?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the admiral who pulled the coup against the federation

Kooky says:
Lore

Chancellor_Topper says:
Sela

Tunik says:
Have you mentioned Moriarti?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
si

Host Trish says:
yes, good one Sandy, what about Lore?

Kooky says:
Antuan:  Yes

Tach says:
Can we go back to the Borg?  Poor little guys got brushed aside.  <G>

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
complete opposite of data

Kooky says:
Data's evil twin .... another who was twisted by jealousy and rage ...

Felix says:
hey people.

Host Trish says:
welcome Felix

Kooky says:
Hey Felix

Tach says:
Lore was interesting, "absolute power corrupts absolutely" in practice.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he was martha stewart

Kooky says:
::nods:: An android who was aware of his self-importance ... interesting concept

Host Trish says:
So, Lore was our evil side, and Data our good side?

Tach says:
Yeah, he didn't even have a higher power he dedicated it to, just plain greed and self promotion.

Kooky says:
yup

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yeah he was a ceo

Felix says:
mm hmm mm hmm...

Tach says:
OK, now I'm changing my vote almost.  <G>

Tunik says:
Question is... exactly how would Lore have behaved if he didn't have his emotion chip... or lost it?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he would still be the same

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
i think

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
try to gain power

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he might actually be worse

Tunik says:
:)

Tach says:
it wasn't a chip for him, it was part of the original design/ program.

Kooky says:
Lore didn't have an emotion chip ... he actually stole data's if I remember correctly

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
na loore always had emotion

Chancellor_Topper says:
when he took Data's emotion chip it just amplified his already evilness

Host Trish says:
he had one Sandy, it just didn't work well

Kooky says:
yes, but that was part of his original programming ...

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he was made evil by dad

Tach says:
Right, "I don't need it, but I want it."  Lore is passing the Borg on me now.

Heather_Llewellyn says:
not on purpose

Tach says:
Wasn't made evil, power corrupts, and he knew he was the most powerful being on the planet.

Felix says:
I don't think borg have bad intentions..

Host Trish says:
ok, let's talk about the Borg... how are they villians?

Kooky says:
The Borg think they are creating perfection ...

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
they are nazi's

Tach says:
They are the most alien alien created by Star Trek.

Felix says:
now thats not true

Felix says:
they're nothing like nazi's

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
they wipe out species

Felix says:
no they don't they assimilate them

Felix says:
they make them part of the collective

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
still the same as wiping them out

Tunik says:
The Borg are no villians. It's just that... humans do not wish to be perfect... and Borg won't stop until they can bring us closer to perfection.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
i

Tach says:
No, not at all.  They embrace, in their own way, every culture they meet.  Take what they want from their culture and add it to their own.

Felix says:
hilter just wanted to kill everyone who wasn't blonde with blue eyes

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
i'd rather be dead then be assimalted

Heather_Llewellyn says:
to incorporate the distinctiveness into their own

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
that kills people

Kooky says:
Hey Rob!

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
no distinctiveness

Felix says:
not the same

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yes it is

T`Lok says:
hi

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
lets add some new villians

Tunik says:
They bring order to chaos. Multiple personalities bring forth great disorder, disruption. A single mind is completely orderly.

Host Trish says:
ok so do they qualify as villians?

Tach says:
The Borg, before First contact, were terrifying because they couldn't be personified.  There was no bargaining.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yes i say so

Felix says:
well they did team up with voyager to wipe out species 8472

Tach says:
Depends how you define villian.  Are they a threat to the "good guys"?  Yes.

Felix says:
ahh, species 8472 are even worse

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
general chang was a good villian

Felix says:
just even said they want to destroy everything

Felix says:
<they>

Tach says:
8472 were at war, propaganda more than desire.  They didn't know the Borg weren't the entire dimension.

T`Lok says:
but species 8472 ended up as allies

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah Chang was

Felix says:
what about Q

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
chang just wanted to maintain the status quo

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
between the federation and the klingons

Kooky says:
Q was a pain in the ....

T`Lok says:
glutious maximus

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
and he loved shakespear more then picard or crusher

Host Trish says:
Would everyone agree Q started out as a good villian but turned into a pest?

Heather_Llewellyn says:
so... but Chang was pretty ruthless...  what about that El Aurian from Generations?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yes

Kooky says:
Soran

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
hey i am an el aurian

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
dont say bad stuff about us

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
because of one nut

Tach says:
Q, like Lore, showed that Power corrupts, but he had restraint (after a fashion)

Heather_Llewellyn says:
no, just one particular guy not the whole race :)

Felix says:
hey my char is half el-aurian

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
just joking around

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
yeah im 600 hundred years old

JeanLuc says:
so who is the all time villon?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
probabbly the oldest character in the gain

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
dukat

Kooky says:
Soran was obsessed ... and obsession can be dangerous

Host Trish says:
ok, Do we consider Soran as a villian?

Tunik says:
Could Q be referred to as a villian? He has no real dangerous intentions. He's more like... an uninvited guest. 

Tunik says:
Soran yes.

T`Lok says:
Kai Winn, because she was sneaky

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the bajoran pope woman

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah... oh Kai Winn was good

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
she was also a fundlementalist

Tach says:
Winn, interesting.

Host Trish says:
now there is a good one, Kai Winn, what do you think of her?

JeanLuc says:
I myself you eather vote for Q or the Adm. in Inserection

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
power hungry kuja

Kooky says:
She was another who was power hungry

Tunik says:
She was a villian.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
section 31 was a good villian

T`Lok says:
i thought she was sneaky, devious, and out for nobody but herself

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah she was

Tunik says:
I'm voting for Kahn.

Tach says:
And another who put herself first.

Tunik says:
Khan

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the organization that was section 31 was a good villian

Host Trish says:
one at a time please, then we will move to another Latan <G>

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
they worked for the federation but had none of its values

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
ok

Tach says:
But she put her greed behind a veil of holiness.

Felix says:
I think lore gets my vote..

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
she was a ttv minister basicly

Host Trish says:
all right, who is another villian?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
section 31

Host Trish says:
that is not a person

Tach says:
All SM's.  <G>

Felix says:
bahhahaaha

Host Trish says:
hehehe!

Kooky says:
Steve!

Felix says:
tim..

Heather_Llewellyn says:
question I have is... what defines "best villian" the furthest reaching capablities? The most evil?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
dukat

T`Lok says:
or personal preference?

Kooky says:
What about Seksa?

Host Trish says:
I would think that is up to each person Trish

Kooky says:
<Seska even>

Heather_Llewellyn says:
ah ok

Tach says:
Alot of things, most evil, most entertaining.

Host Trish says:
yeah, she was a good one as well, what do yall think of Seska?

Tunik says:
She was evil.

T`Lok says:
who was that S'ona dude in Insurection?

Felix says:
that lady who leads the jem hadar

Tunik says:
Golna

Heather_Llewellyn says:
because I guess that would then make this conversation... who was your favorite star trek villian <G>

Host Trish says:
one at a time please folks

Tunik says:
Something like Golna...

Host Trish says:
any other comments about Seska?

Tach says:
Seska was kind of like Dukat in motivation (early Dukat), but trapped far away from home almost beyond hope.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
she cared about her kid

Kooky says:
I liked the way she changed her alliances to serve her purposes ...

Host Trish says:
Would you consider her more of an opportunist than villianess?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
opportunist

T`Lok says:
yes trish

T`Lok says:
she was out for own wants and needs

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
didn't even care for cardasia

Host Trish says:
all, then lets move to the Sona...

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
didn't like the sona that much

Kooky says:
A race motivated by revenge ...

T`Lok says:
the sona seemed to be motivated by greed and revenge

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
they were just spoiled children

Felix says:
drat, I gotta go

Felix says:
later people

Host Trish says:
are you folks noticing any patterns to the villians in ST?

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah

Kooky says:
yup ... revenge, greed, power-hungriness ...

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
oppurtnistic

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
ego

T`Lok says:
but doesnt that define a villian in general?

Tunik says:
Yep.

Kooky says:
pretty much
Tunik says:
In reality, I'd probably be a revenge based villian.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
me too

Host Trish says:
what about the movie where the Enterprise is taken by Spocks half brother?  Who was the entity?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
just a entity

T`Lok says:
did that entity ever have a name?

Kooky says:
"God" or that's what Sybok thought it was

Ed says:
They thought it was god.. 

Tach says:
Um, we try to forget about that movie in respect to Gene Rodenberry.  <G>

Host Trish says:
everyone thought of him as "God"

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the movie showed that william shatner should not direct

Host Trish says:
I thought he was a good villian

Heather_Llewellyn says:
I thought Sybok was a better villian

Tunik says:
Poor Will.

Host Trish says:
but was he a villian Trish?

T`Lok says:
personally, my favorite villian was armis

Ed says:
Sybok wasn't really a villain..

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
he was more of an anti-hero

Kooky says:
Sybok was just misguided

Host Trish says:
I agree Sandy...

Heather_Llewellyn says:
yeah I can see Sybok being an anti-hero

Host Trish says:
ok, who else in the villian line-up?

T`Lok says:
Armis

Host Trish says:
who is that?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
THE ADMiral who pulled a coup

Ed says:
Man.. did I miss Khan.. dang

Kooky says:
What about the Kazon

Kooky says:
?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
against starfleet

Tach says:
Killed Tasha

Kooky says:
Armis was the "Skin of Evil" from TNG

T`Lok says:
the pure skin of evil

Host Trish says:
thanks Steve

Tach says:
Armis did that is.

T`Lok says:
you cant get any more evil than a skin of evil

Heather_Llewellyn says:
oh yeah... he was creepy :)

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
armis looked like a original series alien

Host Trish says:
does anyone see Armis as a petulant child?

Tach says:
Problem with that was he actually made you feel sorry for him, he was almost pitiful.

Host Trish says:
::nods in agreement::

T`Lok says:
but, that is one of the tools that evil uses

Tunik says:
No. People made people evil.

Tunik says:
:)

T`Lok says:
and trish, if I ever had a petulant child like him, I would give him up for adoption :)

Tach says:
Perhaps, but he didn't need the pity.

Host Trish says:
hehehe, me too!

Tunik says:
T`Lok: That would only make him worse.

Host Trish says:
all right, we have time for one more

T`Lok says:
::sends the child to australia, addressed to sandy::

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the admiral who pulled a coup against  federation

Host Trish says:
before we vote

Tunik says:
He'd have a serious thing with abandonment. lol

Tach says:
Temporal Cops.  <G>

Kooky says:
oh thanks a lot Rob!

Tunik is now known as CMO_Tunik.

Kooky says:
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( SY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) LTNS!!!!

Sy says:
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Heather_Llewellyn says:
oh yeah... the new guys from Enterprise.... the temporal baddies....

Tach says:
Which coup?  The one with the worm things from TNG early?

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
no

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
ds9

Kooky says:
The admiral that sent those cadets on that mission when Sisko returned to Earth?

Kooky says:
He, again, was misguided ... the honestly thought he was doing the right thing

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the one who faked a dominion invasion

Kooky says:
::nods:: yeah that's the one

Tach says:
Admiral Leyton was his name.  Problem from my point of view is I barely remember the episode, just remember it from reading summaries and so forth.  He doesn't really stand out for me.

CMO_Tunik says:
Oh. A good villian... Tiberius.

CMO_Tunik says:
Though... he didn't do much.

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
the q kid

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
in a peter david book tiberius was q's god son

T`Lok says:
oh, the q kid was just a brat

Sy says:
that send shivers down a teacher's back

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
a kid shouldn't be trusted with that much power

Tach says:
Eddington, DS9's Maquis was kind of cool.  Liked the Javert/ Val Jean thing he saw himself in.

Host Trish says:
all right, everyone knows who we have talked about tonight, put them in order of 1. 2. 3. , one being the baddest Villian in ST <G> and I will ask you to type them in order of who is in here from Becca downwards.

Host Trish says:
ok, Becca your top 3 choices of villians

Becca says:
I don't know

Host Trish says:
ok, Chancellor

Host Trish says:
guess not, ok Tunik?

Host Trish says:
test?

Sy says:
pass

Host Trish says:
thanks Sy

Host Trish says:
all right, guess not either, Latan?

CMO_Tunik says:
sorry

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
1. dukat  2. khan  3.weyoun

CMO_Tunik says:
I have a mission... 1. Khan... 2. Borg Queen... 3. Dukat

Host Trish says:
Ed?

CMO_Tunik says:
Peace! \\//

Host Trish says:
<G>

Host Trish says:
Trish?

Heather_Llewellyn says:
Bester... but he doesn't really count ;) so... um....  Dukat, Khan (just because I love Ricardo!) and Weyoun

Ed says:
Ermm.. Khan defintely as number 1... I'm not too familiar with many villains in ST so I would have to say Soren.. and em.... dunno.. Khan and Soren..

Host Trish says:
ok <G>

Host Trish says:
JeanLuc?

Chancellor_Topper says:
Sorry....had to answer a call

Host Trish says:
k, what are your top 3 Topper?

Host Trish says:
Sandy?

Kooky says:
1. Khan, 2. Lore, 3. dunno .... ::could put heaps at number 3::

Host Trish says:
hehehe

Host Trish says:
Sy?

Chancellor_Topper says:
1. Q, . Dukat, and 3. Lore

Chancellor_Topper says:
2. Dukat :)

Sy says:
Lore then Soren

Host Trish says:
Rob?

T`Lok says:
1) borg queen, 2) lore, 3)Khan

Host Trish says:
Steve?

Tach says:
1 Kai Winn, 2 Lore, 3 Borg (pre First Contact)

Host Trish says:
and our winner is Steve?

Tach says:
Trish?  Haven't gotten your vote?

Host Trish says:
oh, ok!

Kooky says:
::chuckles::

Heather_Llewellyn says:
oh you mean the other trish

Tach says:
Yeah, sorry.

Host Trish says:
Lore, Borg, Entity

Host Trish says:
and the winner is?

Host Trish says:
::pokes Steve::

Tach says:
tallying, please hold

Host Trish says:
::gets out the feather;:

Sy says:
::plays the jeordy theme music::

Kooky says:
::gets out the supa-poka and hands it to Trish::

Host Trish says:
oooooooouuuuuuuu good one Sy!

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
::sings miss america::

Host Trish says:
er em, what is that Sandy?

Ed says:
::Plays the Tribal Council theme::

Host Trish says:
hehehe Ed!

Sy says:
ooo I like that one better Ed

Ed says:
:P

Tach says:
Khan and Lore tied with 6

Sy says:
didn't like the show but loved the music

Tach says:
Dukat had 5 in third

Host Trish says:
all right!  So we have a tie with Khan and Lore!!!

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
::hugs trish::

Tach says:
4th was either Borg (if Queen is to be included) or blank.  <G>

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
::starts crying::

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
can we find out who has the oldest character for the actd

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
i am just curious

Host Trish says:
all right, see yall next week and thanks for coming... Beth will probably send out a message to let us know what the topic will be.

Sy says:
Were is Beth

Host Trish says:
I might be in the running for that Latan

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
how old our you

Host Trish says:
she had to be at work...

Sy says:
ack :)

Sy says:
:(

CSO_Ens_La`tan says:
i think i will be one of the oldest character in the game

Tach says:
Character?  There are a couple El Aurians, so unless it's a character before Admiral Alexander I think you'd fall a bit short there, Trish.

Host Trish says:
I joined 6 months after ACTD got started

Kooky says:
Trish:  He's talking character's age :)

Host Trish says:
oh! ::giggles::

Kooky says:
hee!

Tach says:
Longest running character is a different question.

Heather_Llewellyn says:
I have a 500 yr old CO

Host Trish says:
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Host Trish says:
Everyone have a good evening...