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Topic: What would you like the next show to be about?

Stardate 10210.25

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Host Beth says:
So ya'll ready to commence with this here chat thing?

Gilles says:
And I've been in ACTD since Feb 2000

Gilles says:
Go ahead Bubbles :-)

Host Brett says:
Yup.  ::Spit::  "Ting!"

Gilles says:
ROFLMAO

Host Beth says:
::smacks her gum::  Thanks darling...Todays topic: What would you like the next show to be about?

kyle says:
more like ds9

Gilles says:
Which part of DS9 Kyle ?

kyle says:
loved the way it wasn't black and white all the time

kyle says:
and the story arcs and character growth

kyle says:
and the way people got promoted nog from cadet to ens then lt. jr.

Gilles says:
The characters were darker on DS9... I have to agree... I liked that

kyle says:
unlike voyager where kim was and ensign for seven years

Gilles says:
Contrary to Voyager ..  LOL Was just going to say that

Gilles says:
I remember Jafo bringing up the subject in Vegas... I think it would make a COOL show... sort of the Fall of the Federation.

Gilles says:
Then they have to rebuild it

Host Brett says:
I think that s called Andromeda.

Host Beth says:
Or Firefly...

Gilles says:
::chuckles::  You know... you may be right

kyle says:
yeah remember hearing that ira steven behr wanted the federation to lost the dom war

Host Beth says:
Now that would have been interesting.

Gilles says:
But.... I think folks like to keep Gene Rodenberry's "vision" of the future... that is not going to end up gone in a BOOM.. .that Human kind will have virtue and grow inwardly

kyle says:
The new series shouuld be on HBO. That way the writes can keep pushing the limit like in the original series.

Gilles says:
ALmost a "Rose colored glasses view"

Host Beth says:
Wouldn't rebuilding from losing a war provide growth?

Trish2 says:
hehe well I doubt HBO would do it though... although that would be awesome

Host Beth says:
Get Paramount to buy HBO then we'd have it :)

Gilles says:
Well.... it depends on how they "Rise from the Ashes".....   With fury and anger to Kill the Dominion ?     Or something else ?

kyle says:
But the dominion would of died out even if they won, because of that section 31 virus.

Host Beth says:
What about this movement to do a show about the Excelsior?

Host Brett says:
I think that if the Feds / Alliance lost the war with the Dominion, there wouold be no rebuilding.  Logically there wouldn't be enough left to rebuild.  Most likely kind of a Guerrilla war kind of thing.

Gilles says:
Not really.. only the Founders... they'd have Bezerker Jem Hadar for a while

Host Brett says:
Naw, the only way that would have worked is to have Takei as Captain and some cool younger actors.

Tara says:
I think they should have shows with more stuff like Voyager has!

kyle says:
voyager shows you why you cant have studio hacks in control of a show

Host Beth says:
What stuff Tara?

Gilles says:
Hmmm.... not sure about Excelsior....

Tara says:
I don't know there beaming and stuff

Gilles says:
Beaming and Stuff ??  Sounds technical !!  :-)

Host Beth says:
Okay....that would be a cool show....concentrating on the technical side.  :)

Tara says:
Yeah

Tara says:
That is what I meant

kyle says:
We need more enlisted people on a new series.

kyle says:
There's just way to many enisgns on the ships.

Gilles says:
Seems they lost all of their technology the week after they invented it !!  LOL

Tara says:
Gillies is that Kyle or Gary

Tara says:
?

Trish2 says:
wasn't there talk of a Starfleet Marines kinda show?

Host Beth says:
What about what Brett said?  An Excelsior show with Takei as Captain and a younger crew?

kyle says:
why not a new show with muppets like farscape

Gilles says:
Like our PRISM ??  I would of liked that :-)

kyle says:
when our they doing prism

Gilles says:
Not sure yet Kyle

Host Brett says:
Muppets?  Please tell me you're joking.  :-)

Tara says:
I don't like shows with Puppets acting things out I think it is wrong

kyle says:
i am talking about animatronics

Trish2 says:
Farscape was cool

kyle says:
idiots at sci fi canceled the series

Host Beth says:
I had heard one scenario of having the Excelsior be a training ship for the academy and get caught up in a war...

Host Brett says:
What about what Brett said, a show with Takei as Captain and a younger crew? ;-)

Tara says:
Yeah that sounds like a good idea

Gilles says:
Nah... I never like Excelsior... copy of Kirk's ship :-)

Tara says:
I don't like the old Star trek I like more of the new stuff

Host Beth says:
::thwaps Gilles:: Watch it bub....the Del's an Excelsior :P

kyle says:
defiants the best ship

Trish2 says:
What about something inbetween TOS and TNG?

kyle says:
you mean the movies

Trish2 says:
set in that time perhaps

Tara says:
I like Voyager and DS9 but I don't care for the younger versions as much as the older ones

Host Beth says:
I had heard they were thinking of putting the Alpha Squadron in that time period....the Marines...

Trish2 says:
hey brian :)

OPS_Mades says:
Hiyas!   Mission running long

Gilles says:
They just wanted to copy our PRISM ;-)

Tara says:
I don't even get to watch many of the shows because are youth is on that night so I have to tape them

kyle says:
hey brian

Tara says:
Hey Brian

Host Beth says:
Welcome Brian :)

Gilles says:
Hya Brian !!

Tara says:
Well I have to go

Tara says:
sorry

Tara says:
all

Tara says:
ttyl

Host Beth says:
Bye Tara...

Host Brett says:
bye.  :-)

Gilles says:
Later Tara

Card_Shark says:
wow, what a conversation!

Gilles says:
Where were we ??

Gilles says:
We lost our place :-)

Host Beth says:
Alpha Squadron...Marines....Excelsior...

Host Brett says:
I think we were saying what a good idea Brett had.  :-)

Gilles says:
ROFL

Host Beth says:
Well, at least  Brett was saying what a good idea Brett had.. ;)

Card_Shark says:
Um...

kyle says:
why not  a series on the klingon or romulan vessel

Gilles says:
Darlene participated in the study group for the new show to decide what the new show would be

Host Beth says:
Kyle: Now that's a good idea.

Gilles says:
It seems Paramount did what they always do... What makes money !! :-)

Card_Shark says:
The next series should be after DS9 ends

Host Beth says:
What would it consist of?  Still be on DS9?

kyle says:
paramount seems more interested in promoted voyager then ds9

Card_Shark says:
No, on a ship.

Host Brett says:
Hmmm, yeah a show about the Romulans would be kind of neat.

Gilles says:
See  ST:Nemesis :-)

Host Beth says:
Voyager appealed to a larger audience, Kyle....more revenue.

Host Brett says:
Only problem is, most of them look alike, be hard to identify with the characters.

Trish2 says:
well I don't mind a ship show... but the writers on DS9 were better

Host Beth says:
Brett: They could wear nametags...

Gilles says:
ROFLMAO  @ Beth

Card_Shark says:
DS9 was garbage after Season 3

Host Brett says:
lol  "Hi my name is Obolos"

kyle says:
what

Gilles says:
Garbage is a bit harsh Mr, Shark

Host Brett says:
Actually, DS9 was good after season 3.

Card_Shark says:
IMO, of course

Host Beth says:
No trash talk in here, please :)

Gilles says:
A lot of folks liked it after Season 3

Host Brett says:
Must be a Voyager fan.

Gilles says:
LOL

Card_Shark says:
Voyager was goood

Trish2 says:
everyone has differing opinions... :) lets be nice.

Card_Shark says:
but STNG was the best

kyle says:
Kinda like the forums at the trekbbs

Host Beth says:
::looks at Brett:: I liked Voyager...

kyle says:
ds9 and voyager fans kept on attacking each other over who was the best show

Gilles says:
I liked them all... just differents "degrees" of liked for each show

Host Brett says:
Yep.  :-)  The shows were diametrically opposed in their subject and atmosphere.  So (usually) a person likes one OR the other, but not both.

Gilles says:
::is unique liked them both::

Host Brett says:
Well, you're Canadian so it doesn't count.  ;-)

Bafii says:
Okay, I can give you all my attention now  =)

kyle says:
hey boss

Host Beth says:
Yes Gilles...you ARE unique that's why you are so loveable...

Card_Shark says:
@ Brett HEY!!!

Gilles says:
::hits Brett with his Moose::

Host Brett says:
:-)

Bafii says:
Wow - Beth do you remember him?  Must no with that remark.  

kyle says:
wonder what will happen next week on the hayden

Host Beth says:
Hehe...   So we've had a few suggestions and ideas that people have heard about...

Gilles says:
New stuff ??    ::listens::

Card_Shark says:
I want to see a series set in the 25th century, which would be about 80-90 years after STNG

kyle says:
a series on risa

kyle says:
feds will be way to advance

Host Beth says:
For those that just joined us: A show with Excelsior... a show with Space Marines... a show about the Academy... a show about the Fall and Rise of the Federation...

Host Brett says:
I think that was called Fantasy Island.  :-)

Bafii says:
Hmm, I guess a deep space exploration who was kinda done with Voyager... hmm.

Card_Shark says:
well, 70-80

Bafii says:
<who=show>

Gilles says:
Hmmm.... LOTS of new tecnological advances....    With new transwarp drive... Zero point extraction device.... and cool doo dads like that ?

Host Beth says:
Card: What would the show be about?

Card_Shark says:
A ship

Dawn says:
wonders how a show would fair if it shows the trials and tribbulations of the Bajoran Resistance during the Cardassian Occupation

kyle says:
Potential kills plot from being way to advance.

Card_Shark says:
basically STNG 70 years later

Card_Shark says:
LOL

Gilles says:
Ohhhhhhhhhh......   Interesting idea Dawn

Bafii says:
Star Trek the Next Next Next Generation  =)

Trish2 says:
STNNG

Dawn says:
Thx Gilles

kyle says:
stb5

Card_Shark says:
Or Maybe a series with Species 8472...

Jasen says:
Hi

Host Beth says:
What about Dawn's suggestion?  Do you think that would work?

Card_Shark says:
sweeeeet...

Gilles says:
How about Mirror Mirror series ?

Bafii says:
Dawn:  Do you think that could really carry an entire series?

Trish2 says:
I always loved Mirror Mirror... but want to talk about potentially darlk

Trish2 says:
dark

Card_Shark says:
Pah, I hate the bajorian.

Card_Shark says:
*bajorians

Gilles says:
VERY DARK

Host Beth says:
No hate talk please.....only very strong dislike :)

Jasen says:
I have information about series 6

Gilles says:
A new one allready ????

Dawn says:
Bafii:  It could, remember the occupation happened over many decades

Bafii says:
I don't think a Mirror Mirror series would fit with the goals and ideals of ST

Jasen says:
yep

kyle says:
there already doingg a season 6

Gilles says:
WOW !!  What they doing ?

Bafii says:
Dawn: Oh, I'm not talking time wise, just story content.

Jasen says:
Star Trek : Titan

kyle says:
USS Hayden

Dawn says:
Bafii:  Anything is possible

Host Beth says:
Could you elaborate Jason?

Gilles says:
RIGHT Jasen !!!   LOL

Bafii says:
Dawn:  What kind of stories do you see beyond the struggle itself?

kyle says:
we can have the cast be based  on our ship

Host Beth says:
:)

Trish2 says:
hey Sergio

SM_Sergio says:
Greetings everyone. :-)

Gilles says:
http://www.sflare.com/article330.html

Jasen says:
Freaks (Riker) and Brega is directing it they have been meeting behind closed doors

SM_Sergio says:
You mean Frakes? :-)

Card_Shark says:
Interesting, but I want proof.

Gilles says:
::nods:: Well I'll be

Gilles says:
::points to the weblink::

Gilles says:
http://www.sflare.com/article330.html

Jasen says:
the story line is that it takes place Pro- Deminon war and Nemisis

Card_Shark says:
coughspellingcough

SM_Sergio says:
LEt me see that article...

kyle says:
no

kyle says:
braga shouldn't work on the next series

Host Beth says:
Let me say that first: No talking about Nemsis please...

Host Beth says:
Um...Nemesis...we know that there has been leaks and no spoilers in here..okay?

kyle says:
script already has been leaked

Host Beth says:
That's fine Kyle...but not in here :)

Dawn says:
Bafii:  It could depite individual growth of char during the occupation.  Plus it could lead toward a deeper  look into the Bajoran culture and religion

Gilles says:
No leaking the script !!

kyle says:
dont have it

Host Beth says:
Looks like poor card_Shark had some problems with his keyboard...

Bafii says:
Dawn:  I definately think it would make a great book series, I'm just not positive about TV.. not yet at least.  =)

Bafii says:
Hi Phil

Gilles says:
Hya Phil !!

SM_Sergio says:
Poor guy..

Tech13 says:
Hello ALL

Jasen says:
hi Phil

Dawn says:
Bafii:  You never know

SM_Sergio says:
Well, i for one would love to see how they manage to integrate the "future techonlogy" that Janeway brought with VOyager..

kyle says:
no

kyle says:
want a post war series

SM_Sergio says:
THat being one of the worst explained things in the ST scenario..

Host Beth says:
Sergio: Would you like it to be another exploration show?

Bafii says:
Dawn: Oh true.  I'm not saying it might not be a great idea, I just don't see it yet.  Don't see enough possibilities in it to run a whole series.  But doesn't mean they aren't there.

Dawn says:
plus I would like to know what B'lanna and Tom Paris named their daughter

SM_Sergio says:
Hmmmm... YEah.. My favourite series was always TNG, so i would say yes. :-)

Frank_SM says:
Well... IF there is going to be a new series, I would like to see it stress what one would cal the ideals of ST.  More like what Rodenberry envisioned, and tried (though sometimed not successfuly) into TOS and TNG.

kyle says:
section 31 series would be great

Jasen says:
I'd like to see a show based on section 31

Bafii says:
I still kinda like Jafo's comment on the fall of the Federation, but that would probably just end up being an Andromeda/Firefly copy.

SM_Sergio says:
Cloak and dagegr? Nahhhh

SM_Sergio says:
Yeppers..

Bafii says:
::agrees with Frank::

SM_Sergio says:
::agrees with Brian::

Jasen says:
or a series based just on the romulan or Klingon Culture

kyle says:
aschroft would probabbly like to have a s31

SM_Sergio says:
Klingon Culture... That woudl be interesting..

SM_Sergio says:
Maybe from before the Klingons ever met the Federation? :-)

kyle says:
a new series based on hobbits

Host Beth says:
You mean pre-tribble?  ;)

Bafii says:
lol @ Kyle

Card_Shark says:
I'm baaaaaaack!

SM_Sergio says:
Heh.. Would be nice to see Klingons without ridges again.. <G>

SM_Sergio says:
wb

kyle says:
like jms and joss whedon and ron moore be responsible for the next series

Bafii says:
lol

SM_Sergio says:
Though Enterprise has made that mith fall already..

kyle says:
i once heard that paramount was planning on getting rid of b & B and replace hthem with jms

SM_Sergio says:
:-)

Jasen says:
all about a series based on temporal mechanics

Bafii says:
The question I have is will enterprise answer the question of how Earth became the center of the Fed so quickly, or will there need to be a new series to explain that?

Gilles says:
Brian: I think we are going to see all that in Enterprise

Trish2 says:
It is because we are pushy earthers :)

Host Beth says:
I think Enterprise will explain a lot of questions like that over time...

SM_Sergio says:
I would hope so.. But that will still take about 50 years or so, i think

Gilles says:
They have to have a Romulan War and the Birth of the Federation in there

SM_Sergio says:
And the Klingon Incident that started the war..

Bafii says:
thats a lot of ground to cover

SM_Sergio says:
A lot of wars to cover. :-)

kyle says:
no romulan war take place 2261

Gilles says:
LOTS indeed

kyle says:
no borg pleese in enterprise

Gilles says:
LOL Kyle !!  I sure hope not

SM_Sergio says:
HEh... I sincerely doubt that.

SM_Sergio says:
(i hope)

kyle says:
voyager ruined them

Host Beth says:
How about a show on The Birth of The Federation?  Would that work?

kyle says:
why not a show with kirk's children

Card_Shark says:
No, too politcal

Gilles says:
::reads up:: I like Trish's comment... pushy Earthers :-)

Card_Shark says:
NOOOO!

SM_Sergio says:
I think that's what Paramount tried to do with Enterprise..

SM_Sergio says:
DOes anyone know how the Enterprise ratings are faring?

Tech13 says:
How about a Vulcan Series?

kyle says:
vulcans to boringn

kyle says:
no emotion

Trish2 says:
Andorians <G>

Gilles says:
Sergio: Fair to Good....dropped off a bit since the start... but that's normal like all the others

Card_Shark says:
Species 8472!!!!!!!!1

SM_Sergio says:
Oh please.. That one would need to be full CGI.. :-P

Bafii says:
What if we mix ideas... Birth of SF Academy - see these aliens speices first starting to live and work together.

Jasen says:
all about a series on the Orion Syc

kyle says:
sopranoes in space

Card_Shark says:
LOL

Host Beth says:
Brian: I like that idea. :)

Trish2 says:
need HBO to do that right ;)

kyle says:
paramount winds up with lawsuit from hbo

kyle says:
hbo great

Bafii says:
Beth:  I think it could be interesting.

kyle says:
studio hacks and network sensors dont get involved in hbo shows

kyle says:
they let the writers do whatefer they want

Card_Shark says:
lol

CMO_Tunik says:
Has anyone said they wanted the next show to be about Riker?

Trish2 says:
I adore Riker... but I don't see that happening

Gilles says:
Antuan: There are rumors about Star Trek: Titan  with Will Riker in command

Host Beth says:
No Tunik...how would that work?  He takes over the Enterprise?

SM_Sergio says:
well folks, i'm off...

Bafii says:
I'm not firing my CO to give it to Riker - lol

CMO_Tunik says:
::is tickled by that rumor:: I hope it comes true.

SM_Sergio says:
Nice talking to ya..

Bafii says:
Later Sergio

CMO_Tunik says:
Beth: It would be nice for him if he took over the Enterprise... but bad for Picard. However, eventually Riker is going to get his own command.

Gilles says:
Shhhhhhhhh... no Nemesis spoilers   Anutan !!! :-)

Bafii says:
You would think after Wolf they would have forced him into command having lost so many people - but it was just a TV show.

Gilles says:
LOL Brian   true

Trish2 says:
of course... how would they handle Deanna in the new series... it might be neat to see a married captain

Card_Shark says:
lol

Bafii says:
Nice idea Trish

Gilles says:
Now THAT would be good....   It would be ABOUT TIME !!

Bafii says:
that is always interesting on our (ACTD) ships

Gilles says:
In Star Trek Books.... They had Robert April married to his wife Sarah who was the CMO

Gilles says:
Robert April = First Captain of Enterprise before Pike

Host Beth says:
What about a show that had more emphasis on the family life of the crew?

Trish2 says:
cool

Bafii says:
Books - there is one we haven't mentioned - ST New Frontier

Gilles says:
::grins:: Calhoon !!!   LOVE the Guy !!!

Bafii says:
Beth, wouldn't that kind of be a new DS9

Trish2 says:
sorta yeah

Bafii says:
G: Exactly!  There are some great characters in that series.

Gilles says:
::nods:: Alll unique and VERY bizarre... makes good stories

Host Beth says:
Well I have to admit I sort of lost the show when it moved to Sundays @ 6 pm  but did they have any other families besides Sisko's?

Trish2 says:
too bizarre and you lose audience

Bafii says:
Nog and Rom - hehe

Host Beth says:
And what about the family life on a starship?  I've always been curious about that.

Bafii says:
I just mean that a family based show would be character dev driven like DS9 was as opposed to a ship show that is more action driven

Host Beth says:
Two minute warning folks :)

Host Beth says:
What would people like to see more of: Character driven or action based?

Frank_SM says:
Well, I gtg anyway.... night all

Card_Shark says:
???

Trish2 says:
::needs popcorn::

Trish2 says:
character!

Bafii says:
character

Card_Shark says:
both

Host Brett says:
Well both, obviously.  Like DS9.  :-)

Dawn says:
taking off sleep if winning battle

Bafii says:
character with long ranging arcs

Trish2 says:
B5!

Bafii says:
I wasn't gonna say it Trish

Host Brett says:
Yeah, B5 got it right.

Bafii says:
they got it very right

Bafii says:
well, except for the movies

Bafii says:
those were subpar

Host Beth says:
Okay quickly before we close:  Topic suggestions anyone?

Bafii says:
Birth of SF Academy

Jasen says:
birth of the federation

Card_Shark says:
"

Card_Shark says:
ditto

Gilles says:
Topic for us to talk she means

Host Beth says:
Umm..I meant for future Themed Chats :)

Bafii says:
lol

Bafii says:
read it wrong

CMO_Tunik says:
I'm thinking of an ACTD game expansion idea.

Bafii says:
Nights on different cultures perhaps

Bafii says:
let people share how they play some of the lesser known races

Host Beth says:
Oooo...nice one Brian ::writes it down::

Bafii says:
=)

Gilles says:
Talk an hour on Andorian Brian ??

Gilles says:
Hmmmm...

Host Beth says:
Tunik: I'm not certain we can use that as a topic for a themed chat.

CMO_Tunik says:
Maybe... for people who don't have a real interest in rank... we could have a... Starfleet Academy. In which... every week... an SM or player in a high rank would enter the class.

Bafii says:
Never played one... I can talk Minaran  =)

CMO_Tunik says:
Beth: Oh.

Gilles says:
Antuan: You can do that in training... you can NPC for the trainers

Bafii says:
::thinks G wants more NPCs::

Gilles says:
::grins::

Host Beth says:
yes..in fact you can NPC for me in one hour :)

Gilles says:
Shhhhhhhh..........

Bafii says:
<edit NPCs to kill>

CMO_Tunik says:
What I meant was... players could play as cadets going through Academy.

Gilles says:
Beth: I,ll be there

Bafii says:
That could be fun

Host Beth says:
Oh my poor cadets...Gilles will be there ;)

Gilles says:
<VBEG>

Kooky says:
hmmm ... to be a cadet again ...

CMO_Tunik says:
lol

Bafii says:
Just be lucky you don't have to edit the tranny after... G and speEling and all

Gilles says:
Sandy... pop in on Tuesday nights    ::grins::

CMO_Tunik says:
Well... I have a mission to be in. I'll chat with you all in the future.

Host Beth says:
Hmmm...that sounds intriguing Tunik... :: writes it down::

Jasen says:
I really like this club so far

CMO_Tunik says:
Oh do think about it Beth. It's a nice idea.

Kooky says:
Gilles:  I wish I could ... But I'm at work when you train :(

Gilles says:
Jasen: That's because we are insane :-)

Gilles says:
:-(   @ Sandy

CMO_Tunik says:
High rank players can even... teach the other player cadets a thing or two.

Gilles says:
LOL

Bafii says:
only certifiably

Host Beth says:
Next week you will be at the mercy of Gilles...

Gilles says:
Mu HA HA HAAA !!

Bafii says:
::runs::

Gilles says:
Sandy.... I'm running Beth's training next week

Host Beth says:
but I'll be back the following week...so you only have to suffer one week ;)

Kooky says:
Cool ... Don't kill too many cadets Gilles :)

Jasen says:
I have done some live roll playing in the past

Card_Shark says:
I'm glad this is my last week of training...

Gilles says:
::sighs:: I suppose I can maime them

Kooky says:
::nods::

Gilles says:
::remembers a flesh eating virus::

CMO_Tunik says:
See you around the block!

Kooky says:
Later Antuan

Host Beth says:
Look for Gilles announcement on the topic later this week....good job everyone and thank you for coming :)

Kooky says:
::remembers it too!::

Bafii says:
Well Beth - thanks for putting this together!

Host Brett says:
Thanks Beth.  See you later.  Later to you all.  :-)

Bafii says:
Was an interesting conversation

Host Beth says:
Hey..thank James...I just thwap people around :)

Bafii says:
lol

Bafii says:
Well night!

Host Beth says:
Night brian....!

Gilles says:
Where do you send the annoucement to Beth to post it ?

Host Beth says:
Jafo...

Gilles says:
::thwaps forehead:: Of course :-)

Host Beth says:
You'll want to send it to him Tuesday night for him to post on Wednesday

Host Beth says:
Okay Jason...Kooky...ya'll got to leave now :)  Thank you gor coming :)

Host Beth says:
<for>

Gilles says:
I'll give it a shot and see what happens... :-)

Host Beth says:
Sure...and please...don't permanently maim any of my cadets "_

Host Beth says:
Bye Kooky :)

Gilles says:
::grins::

Host Beth says:
Gilles 

Host Beth says:
Leaving here...Warning: If you hang around for too long Boothby will kick you off the server...