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Topic: Do you think Star Trek will become a reality in our lifetime?

Stardate 10210.12

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Host Beth says:
Okay then :)  I'll throw it back out there.  Do you think Star Trek will become a reality in our lifetime?

Lazer says:
May I begin?

Host Beth says:
Sure.

nathan says:
well i think its possible with the right advancments in technogy

Lazer says:
I thought about the question a lot in the past couple of days.. and I've concluded that the answer is both yes and no.

Lazer says:
Yes, because it's a good fantasy.. and that it would be nice if everyone was peaceful and harmonious and have all these great technologies.. and peace was perfect.

Lazer says:
And No, because you have to keep in mind that Roddenbury was an atheist.. and he brings that into his show.  He believes that people in the 24th century will be more "evolved" than they are in the 20th c... where there's world peace, and stuff like that.

Lazer says:
does that make sense?  But people are people.. there will always be contentious and strife.

Host Beth says:
Nathan?  Any response?

Lazer says:
Because people will always want what they don'thave.. and if they try hard enough.. they'll do whatever they want to to get that thing.

Trish2 says:
People and their attitudes do take longer to change than technology takes to develop

Lazer says:
go ahead. :)

nathan says:
Partially because people are so against change and new things

Host Beth says:
But do you guys think that the technology is even possible?

Lazer says:
probably.. but a lot sooner than the 24th c.

Lazer says:
BUT I also believe that every new technology that we discover, it'll get turned into a weapon.

Trish2 says:
well I think it depends on whose lifetime we are talking... I mean, for me I don't see myself living as long as McCoy did...

Lazer says:
It has in the past.. and I don't see any reasons why that would change in the future. :)  YEah.. I'm pretty pestimistic about the future, if you haven't notice.. hehe.

Lazer says:
hi Dawn. :)

Dawn says:
Hi :)

Lazer says:
anyways.. what about you Sunset, do you think ST will ever become a reality?

Brett says:
Well, some technology will obviously come to pass.  Some is supposedly impossible.  Like Warp drive.

Dawn says:
I think it's already started,

nathan says:
Well warp drive is tecanically not impossible only by one mans therory

Lazer says:
Personally.. I don't think we'll ever travell through space

Lazer says:
I mean.. other than what we are doing toda..

Lazer says:
<today> and certainly not how ST does it in their shows. :)

Host Beth says:
Dawn: You said you thought it already started.  How?

Dawn says:
the reason I think that is due to the handy companion that most everyone has--- Cellphones, kinda look like the communicators from TOS

Lazer says:
I beleve in talking and interactive computers.. maybe even holodecks to some degrees

Dawn says:
I mentioned it in my response about Cellphones.   I believe I have a massive lag

Host Beth says:
Brett: Do you think that something similar to Warp Drive will be possible?

Lazer says:
no worries, Dawn :)

Brett says:
Possibly.  If Nathan is right and Einstein is wrong, then it will come to pass.  Otherwise, I suspect we'll develop a version of transporter technology like a warp gate or jump gate.

Host Beth says:
Let me throw this out:  Do you all think that before mankind changes it's attitude towards one another...do we first have to go through what happened in Star Trek...a massive WWIII?  Do we need that kind of wake-up call?

Trish2 says:
Um... I think if Aliens were proven to exist to the general public... that might be enough of a wake-up call.

Dawn says:
Yes we do need the wake up call.  Their are still some societies that still think that they are better than those around them.

Dawn says:
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Lazer says:
IF mankind changes its attitude than the past generations.. then yeah.. they'll need to. But look at 9/11... it was a catastrophe (and it was.. I'm not lightening that in any ways).. but the average attitute of everyone around the world is like.. "Oh well, it dind't happen here, so that's good.. Life moves on."

Brett says:
For myself, I think we are making good progress in the peace department.  I don't think a massive war will be needed.  Most likely everyone will eventually come around.  Those who hold out for war and hostility will be eradicated.  We're seeing this a bit now.

Brett says:
That seems like a contradictory statement I know.

Dawn says:
Lazer:   I fear that the events of 9/11 is just a prelude of things to come.

Lazer says:
So I don't think mankind's attitude will every change.  If they are different than the majority, they are labelled and looked down on. It happens in schools, it happens in adult life.. it will always happen.  I know we all try NOT to do that.. but the truth is.. it's our nature to look down on someone or some group of poeple because of what they<c>

Lazer says:
have or what they don't have.

Lazer says:
Sunset: I very much agree.

Host Beth says:
If you could take one thing from Star Trek and make ia reality..right now....what would it be?  It can anything..technology, ideals, way of life....anything...but only one.

Lazer says:
::hopes tha tmakes snese::

Lazer says:
Holodecks. :)

Lazer says:
Love those critters.  And hopefully affordable so I can build one in my house! :D

Dawn says:
Holodecks:)  That way one can write a novel and see how it unfolds in front of them :)

Trish2 says:
way of life I think..

Brett says:
Oh the way of life deffinately.  Not having to work, being able to work only for extra things and luxuries.  No war, clean air, etc.

Lazer says:
Or change the result of story because of the many variables.

Dawn says:
Lazer:  Exactly, that's where I am right now, I'm trying to write on myself but I am stuck.  However, I can see the events in my mind but putting it on paper is another thing.

Dawn says:
<write one>

Host Beth says:
But isn't their job on the ships?  It seems to me that everyone worked on Star Trek...

Lazer says:
yes.. I can understand that problem. :)  There seem to be a blockage between your head (wehre the story is) and your figures... hehe.

Brett says:
Well, a series about people who sat around all day would be boring.  Ummm, Friends I think it was called.  Anyway, the populace worked at jobs they enjoyed to make extra "money" for luxuries etc.

Dawn says:
There's always going to be jobs no matter how much technology there is,  how is it going to be maintained :)

Lazer says:
Beth: According to cannon (source: ST: TNG Movie: First Contact), we will evnetualywork to be happy and nothing else.

Trish2 says:
LOL Brett....

CDT_Wilkins says:
what's the topic

Lazer says:
Can ST happen in the future

CDT_Wilkins says:
sure

Lazer says:
why?

CDT_Wilkins says:
Well, many breakthroughs have just come about

Lazer says:
go ahead. :)

CDT_Wilkins says:
for instance, scientists have been able to transport a small bug about a yard (using a transporter like system)

CDT_Wilkins says:
but, it hasn't lived.

CDT_Wilkins says:
they're heading in the right direction though

CDT_Wilkins says:
laser technology is also growing too

Brett says:
Umm, I don't recall that.  I know they transported a subatomic particle a short distance.  But nothing solid yet that I know of.

CDT_Wilkins says:
well that's what I read somewhere, corse, not everythings true out there so I could've read a tabloid and not have known it

Lazer says:
do u remember wher eu read that from?

Host Beth says:
Do you all think that without Star Trek technology would have headed in a different direction?  What I mean is...did Gene Roddenbarry give them the ideas and they tried to make them happen or was it the other way around?

CDT_Wilkins says:
It was a 2nd party news forum I found on google

CDT_Wilkins says:
didn't mark the site

CDT_Wilkins says:
WIsh i knew what it was now...

Dawn says:
it could be a marriage of the two

CDT_Wilkins says:
now taht I feel sorta stupid

Brett says:
The subatomic particle didn't live either.  :-)

Lazer says:
no worries, Wilkins

CDT_Wilkins says:
lol

CDT_Wilkins says:
yeah guess your right on that one

Host Beth says:
Wilkins: Don't worry about it...you had the right premise.

Host Beth says:
Dawn: Can you elaborate please?

Dawn says:
Well, I may have to go off topic slightly to explain

Dawn says:
May I ?

CDT_Wilkins says:
But one of the things that I question the possibility of is warp core

Host Beth says:
Dawn: Well just try not to wander too far off the path :)

Dawn says:
I won't, it'll be brief

Lazer says:
Beth: There's way too many evident of the so called "ancient civilizations" to say that Gene gave the ideas and people ran with it.  I THINK that even without any of these futuristic and sci-fi shows, technology will still advance. :)  Sci-fi was just a catalyst.

CDT_Wilkins says:
very good point

CDT_Wilkins says:
I'm gonna go check out some of the other rooms.  be back later

Lazer says:
I mean.. they found batteries .. ancient batteries somewhere.. and they also found a capacitor in these coal mines.  It's obvious that these objects were there when the coals were being formed.

Dawn says:
Well, if the reports of "Roswell" really happened, the govt had something to study, then here comes Star Trek to make the govt/scientists look go in that direction with the alleged "strange craft"  I hope that is making sense.

Lazer says:
So.. people would have eventually "rediscover' these things... :)

Dawn says:
if I am off base just tell me

Lazer says:
welcoem back :)

CDT_Wilkins says:
nothing going in the other rooms. just a mission and some Pendragon thing

CDT_Wilkins says:
thanks

Lazer says:
that's a mission :)

CDT_Wilkins says:
oh

Host Beth says:
Keep it to topic please...

Dawn says:
okay no problem, that is all that came to mind when you asked me to explain further. :)

Host Beth says:
Dawn: I don't think anyone is off-base here...this is a forum for you to say what you think and believe about the topic :)

Dawn says:
okay

Host Beth says:
Anyone else have any comments on this?

Dawn says:
please.. I'd like to hear it too :)

CDT_Wilkins says:
Right, now, I'm curious as to weather or not the medical techs of Star Trek are actually possible

CDT_Wilkins says:
Some of it seems kinda far fetched

Host Beth says:
Like what?

CDT_Wilkins says:
like the Tricorder, the treatments, that sort of thing

Brett says:
I think, if any field will advance to the level of Trek  (besides weapons)  it will be in medicine.

Drew says:
I guess it's possible

Lazer says:
I agree.

Lazer says:
Medicine and Weapon :)

Drew says:
It was a thought based on a nano-tech ad I just saw flash across the CNN news ticker

Drew says:
Weapon more than medicine to me

Host Beth says:
Sort of go hand in hand don't they?  Using one causes the need for the other... ;)

Sy says:
true

Lazer says:
lol

Drew says:
but that's only because I understand the possibility of weapon tech advancement

Drew says:
lol, true

Drew says:
yeah, or, we could just go right in the direction of peace.  But were there's a human,

Drew says:
there's violance

Drew says:
sorta unavoidable

Host Beth says:
All right ...I'd like to go off topic for the last few minutes and ask everyone what they would like to talk about in these Themed Chats?

Lazer says:
o agree :)

Lazer says:
Doesn't  matter Beth.. I don't even think it has to be ST or ACTD related. Could even be something about thecurrent event.

Drew says:
well, maybe, der... I don't know

Drew says:
I definatly don't wan t to find myself talking about, "Hey, did you hear about that special edition directors cut of episode 29 of TNG?"

Drew says:
I hate that kinda stuff

Drew says:
sorry, just had to say that

Host Beth says:
I think we had better keep it to ST...there are too many nationalities in ACTD and I don't want to moderate a cultural exchange ;)  But there are many different features about it....is it still portraying what Gene R. wanted it to?

Brett says:
Well, perhaps a discussion about something to do with the game?  Types of missions we'd like to see, changes we'd like to see  etc.

Host Beth says:
Sure....that is possible...

Drew says:
yeah, that's a good idea

Drew says:
I was waiting for some1 to say that

Brett says:
I live for controversy.  :-)

Drew says:
lol

Lazer says:
me 2 :)

Brett says:
A how to guide for digging post holes and mixing concrete maybe?

Drew says:
I would've said something, but since I'm unfamiliar with ACTD right now

Lazer says:
lol

Lazer says:
all the more reason to join these discussions.

Lazer says:
fresh ideas u know.

Drew says:
and since I don't know what is acceptable to say yet,

Host Beth says:
All right....I don't think there will be a Themed Chat next week...one) I will be out of town and two) I will be posting something on the NG to ask what everyone thinks....

Drew says:
well, let's just say I'm a slightly paranoid person

Brett says:
Drew, you're not allowed to say you're paranoid.  :-)

Drew says:
don't do that! lol

Drew says:
well, if anything, a free chat room with some moderation would be nice

Drew says:
free as in no set topic

Sy says:
that is called the fleetyard isn't it?

Drew says:
well, no one ever goes there

Host Beth says:
Hehe...Drew: You did fine and you'll find that this is one place that you can spout your opinions about the topic without worrying what you are saying....as long as it is rated-G..

Drew says:
true

Trish2 says:
well I gotta go beth...

Drew says:
never know when you go somewher

Drew says:
pleasure talking to you

Host Beth says:
Okay...well I'd like to thank all of you for participating tonight :)

Drew says:
sure

Lazer says:
thnq for having us :)

Lazer says:
night beth.

Drew says:
maybe I'll see you guys in a mission after I finsish training

Drew says:
blah finish

Drew says:
goodnight

Lazer says:
I'm not in missiosn anymore. :)

Drew says:
really?

Lazer says:
but c u around.

Lazer says:
nope.. I'm a PBeM trainer.. that's all i do now.. hehe.

Drew says:
c ya

Lazer says:
ciao.

Dawn says:
laters,

Host Beth says:
Watch the posts for the next chat :)